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Bathroom fan

  • 07-04-2014 4:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭


    Hi lads I'm have a dispute with a fella over if a bathroom fan should be directly over the shower on the ceiling.I think it shouldn't as it could get effected by steam directly below it.Didn't the bathroom zones change and zone 1 now goes to the ceiling.So asking for everyone's opinion on this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭maxfresh


    If the bathroom is upstairs an in-line fan kit can be used ,the motor part goes in the attic


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    If the idea is to extract as much steam as possible from the shower it is best to have the fan directly over the shower cubicle. Vortice make a fan that is suitable for this application as it operates at 12VDC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭tomdempsey200


    2011 wrote: »
    If the idea is to extract as much steam as possible from the shower it is best to have the fan directly over the shower cubicle. Vortice make a fan that is suitable for this application as it operates at 12VDC.

    what's the exact regulation on 230v fans over the cubicle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    what's the exact regulation on 230v fans over the cubicle?

    Sorry that's where I was coming from as well.
    It's an existing 240v fan


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    what's the exact regulation on 230v fans over the cubicle?

    As per Table 701 A
    Zone 0 Not permitted
    Zone 1 Not permitted
    Zone 2 N/A - This is to the side of the shower cubicle
    Zone 3 Permitted > 2.25m from finished floor level


    The fan should:

    1) Have an isolating switch. This should disconnect phase and neutral. A timed fan will require a 3 pole switch as there is a switched and permanent live. This should be installed outside all zones.

    2) Be permanently connected.

    3) Installed in accordance with manufactures instructions.

    4) Protected by an RCD.


    If I were to install a fan in a bathroom it would be at least IPX4, double insulated and plastic. Many shower cubicles do not have a Zone 3 as the ceiling is too low, so it is not permitted to install a 230V fan in the shower cubicle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭tomdempsey200


    are they allowed in zone 2 to the right of the cubicle also?

    the basic 230v fan isn't ip4x either is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭tomdempsey200




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    are they allowed in zone 2 to the right of the cubicle also?

    Yes, but they must be at least IPX4 and "EN suitable for Zone 2"
    the basic 230v fan isn't ip4x either is it?

    In general I think most fans are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭tomdempsey200


    EN suitable for zone 2..

    is that something that's marked on the box?
    how is that determined?

    will all ipx4 fans have it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭Mycro


    I am also thinking of installing an inline fan. I am looking at a Manrose MF100T. Does anybody know where I can buy one in greater Dublin and also if it can be placed near the external outlet rather than near the steam intake?

    Thanks.


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