Scale & polish recommendation

purethick

Hi,
If anyone knows of a place in Dublin that does a clean & polish for €40 (or less!) then please PM me with the name.
I've seen various groupon deals in the past for this service but none are floating around at the moment.

Thanks

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Thats pretty much every dentist out there. Go to the same one you went to last time as you wont need a full examination only a check up.

purethick

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

Thats pretty much every dentist out there. Go to the same one you went to last time as you wont need a full examination only a check up.

Minimum price I'm seeming €50 - most are higher than that (up to €90 in some cases). Good money for 10-15 minutes of work :-)

btkm8unsl0w5r4

purethick wrote: »

Minimum price I'm seeming €50 - most are higher than that (up to €90 in some cases). Good money for 10-15 minutes of work :-)

Do you think the dentist gets to keep all the money you give them.....when you break down the costs it's really not a lot.

purethick

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

Do you think the dentist gets to keep all the money you give them.....when you break down the costs it's really not a lot.

Of course I'm aware of overheads, rates, rent, training, lighting, heating, insurance, staff etc.
*However* Ireland is still waaaay more expensive then comparable places in Europe... These places also have pretty much the same overheads. All I can do is vote with my feet and seek out the places that offer better value.

davo10

purethick wrote: »

Of course I'm aware of overheads, rates, rent, training, lighting, heating, insurance, staff etc.
*However* Ireland is still waaaay more expensive then comparable places in Europe... These places also have pretty much the same overheads. All I can do is vote with my feet and seek out the places that offer better value.

Long walk to other "places in Europe" to save a tenner, a new pair of shoes may be necessary.

Before judging others, consider what wage someone in Eastern Europe gets for doing your job or what their benefit payments are, would you be willing to take a 50% paycut to come in to line with their earnings?

purethick

davo10 wrote: »

Long walk to other "places in Europe" to save a tenner, a new pair of shoes may be necessary.

Before judging others, consider what wage someone in Eastern Europe gets for doing your job or what their benefit payments are, would you be willing to take a 50% paycut to come in to line with their earnings?

I do believe I said comparable places in Europe....e.g. somewhere a little closer perhaps, like Northern Ireland.

And when I said that Ireland is expensive, I wasn't just referring to dental fees, I was referring to all sorts of services and day to day living etc.

Why so defensive anyway? It's not like it's brand new news that Ireland is overpriced. In what manner have I upset you, please elaborate

purethick

I find your lack of reply quite telling!!

btkm8unsl0w5r4

No just got bored. If saving a tenner (why a tenner why not 15, why not 20?) is your priority then google loads of dental practices and find the prices. If you cannot find you at the price you are willing to pay, but must save the money then hop on a bus or plane and get it done elsewhere. You will have to have a examination with a new dentist.

Do whatever you please, no dentist is going to loose sleep over this despite what you might like to think dentist are busy treating their patients and running their small businesses.

purethick

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

No just got bored.

Indeed

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

why a tenner why not 15, why not 20?)

40 seemed fair[/QUOTE]

However my issue was with your tone here...

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

Before judging others

And that was what I was referring to with my last reply

btkm8unsl0w5r4

purethick wrote: »

And that was what I was referring to with my last reply[/QUOTE]

Why does 40 seem fair? You have quoted me as posting something I didnt there, you can have the last word.......insert outrage below.

Oral Surgeon

I find these useful

Mingetoad

By the way from googling NI practices £35-50 was the range I found from the first ten practices with prices on their sites, not counting an exam if they charge for one.
In many practices purethick the dentist will give a large discount to long term/regular patients. Shopping around on price only is one way of ensuring in the long term you don't have a good trusting relationship with any dentist, and therefore will run the risk of overtreatment or overseen needs.
For the sake of a tenner or so, get a local dentist that you like and trust and get the value out of your regular cleanings i.e. someone who knows your mouth and can detect changes etc.

purethick

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

You have quoted me as posting something I didnt there, you can have the last word.......insert outrage below.

Ooops - sorry about that. Wires crossed.
My comments were directed at the last poster at the time davo10. I thought you were davo10 since you replied. Sorry again

purethick

Mingetoad wrote: »

By the way from googling NI practices £35-50

First place I searched for came up as £28.

Mingetoad wrote: »

In many practices purethick the dentist will give a large discount to long term/regular patients.

Never heard of a GP or dentist giving a discount. If you have to make a return visit then to get test results then you may not get charged, that's as much as I've ever heard.

Mingetoad wrote: »

Shopping around on price only is one way of ensuring in the long term you don't have a good trusting relationship with any dentist

I'm not looking to get an extraction, crown or root canal here. I just wish to get a scale and polish.

Mingetoad wrote: »

For the sake of a tenner or so

A tenner may not be much to you...

Mingetoad

purethick wrote: »

First place I searched for came up as £28.


Never heard of a GP or dentist giving a discount. If you have to make a return visit then to get test results then you may not get charged, that's as much as I've ever heard.


I'm not looking to get an extraction, crown or root canal here. I just wish to get a scale and polish.


A tenner may not be much to you...

The two practices I saw that were less than £35 both charge a new patient exam fee. In any case, I'm sure you can get less than £35 in NI, just as you can get less than €50 south of the border.

I'm a dentist and I give discounts every single day. Hardship cases that are genuine, long-term patients that are having a lean period, family members coming in together etc. My accountant doesn't agree with it, but I prefer to show my appreciation for valued patients. No offence to you, but a price shopper who has already decided he does not need any other work than a cleaning at a price he has decided is fair (who knows how long it will take to properly clean your teeth to the standards I like?) is not someone who I see any value in giving a discount to.

A tenner is a meal to most people. It's also less than the cheapest method of getting to Northern Ireland or further.

If all you want is a cheap scale and polish wait for someone to do a group on deal or similar and go in for your five minute run over before the next bargain hunter and leave happy you've saved a bit.
On a side-note, I'm forever telling my patients that the money you spend on hygiene is probably the best ROI any of your dental spending gives. Later in life, healthy gums will save a lot of pain, worry and money.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

purethick wrote: »

First place I searched for came up as £28.
.

Go there so. 28 gbp is 35 euro. New patient examination will be the same or more another 35 euro. Day off work and transport (20 euro) eat something (10 euro) total cost €100 euro.

Just cause you decide your willing to pay an amount for a service doesn't mean that service costs that amount. The threat of "voting with your feet" is only a threat to massive inconvienance yourself and cost yourself a load more money.

purethick

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

Go there so. 28 gbp is 35 euro. New patient examination will be the same or more another 35 euro. Day off work and transport (20 euro) eat something (10 euro) total cost €100 euro.

Just cause you decide your willing to pay an amount for a service doesn't mean that service costs that amount. The threat of "voting with your feet" is only a threat to massive inconvienance yourself and cost yourself a load more money.

I already pointed out that my comments about Ireland being expensive are not solely directed at dentists. I was trying to shop around in the same manner as the way people do when buying whatever weekly supplies they need.
There probably is a place in Dublin that is doing it for less than €50 (if an examination was deemed mandatory then maybe it will get taken care of on PRSI) and I was justing asking for a PM if anyone knew of a place.

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

The threat

Threat? No need to be so melodramatic, all I'm doing is shopping around, what is wrong with that?
I know you are p1ssed off with me cause I misquoted you, and I apologise for that.

Someone mentioned that something may pop up on groupon and perhaps I should wait for one of those.

Oral Surgeon

Millem

purethick wrote: »

Hi,
If anyone knows of a place in Dublin that does a clean & polish for €40 (or less!) then please PM me with the name.
I've seen various groupon deals in the past for this service but none are floating around at the moment.

Thanks

It is probably out of your way but I go to this dentist.
**no names on forum*** I thinks it's €30. The last time I went they didn't charge me as I had Prsi???? (Even though I know it changed a few years ago!). They are brilliant. I got the zoom teeth whitening done a few years ago with them too

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Shopping around is fine, however people who shop around with dentists tend to have more fillings cause they have no relationship with a dentist who knows their teeth. Also in order to shop around you have to place no value on your time or transportation cost. Many posters come on here and within a few post are talking about traveling 100 miles to save a tenner without any appreciation of the irony of that.

Also say the chap charging 50 euro takes 20 minutes and is very precise but the 30 euro guy takes 1 minute and bundles you out, who is better value. Value and cost are not the same thing.

purethick

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

Also in order to shop around you have to place no value on your time or transportation cost. Many posters come on here and within a few post are talking about traveling 100 miles to save a tenner without any appreciation of the irony of that.

My original post said "in Dublin"

Daphne CoolS Xerography wrote: »

Value and cost are not the same thing.

Yes I know that - stop being so patronising. We are talking about a scale and polish not brain surgery :rolleyes:

Oral Surgeon

purethick wrote: »

Yes I know that - stop being so patronising. We are talking about a scale and polish not brain surgery :rolleyes:

A sloppy paint job is a bad job and is a waste of money... It doesn't need to be brain surgery, no one said that it was....

btkm8unsl0w5r4

purethick wrote: »

My original post said "in Dublin"

purethick wrote: »

Of course I'm aware of overheads, rates, rent, training, lighting, heating, insurance, staff etc.
*However* Ireland is still waaaay more expensive then comparable places in Europe... These places also have pretty much the same overheads. All I can do is vote with my feet and seek out the places that offer better value.

purethick wrote: »

Yes I know that - stop being so patronising. We are talking about a scale and polish not brain surgery :rolleyes:

Thats why it costs only 50 euro. Look at the end of the day the market is open, and the market decides what the price is based on the costs of business in that market and patients expectations of service and quality in that area. There is no getting around the fact your arguing over a tenner for a trained professional to scrape the bacteria off your teeth. Nomatter who you are a tenner is not a lot of money, and its probably what the dentist actually makes after costs to do the job.

Dianthus

OP, google things like "BPE"(Basic Periodontal Examination) & "6 point pocket charting". It's impossible to assess the condition& health of the gums, & the extent of the tartar, without a proper clinical examination.
Whether you're a punter or a dentist, eye-balling the teeth is simply not accurate enough to decide "Yip, a 30minute £35 scale and polish will do me, thanks". How do you know for sure how long you need? Some (albeit rare) patients have excellent daily oral hygiene& only need a quick 5 minute polish. Some need a 30 minute visit, some need a 60 minute visit, some need to be referred to a gum specialist (periodontist). Some need xrays to check their bone levels.
By pre-booking a scale-and-polish slot without having had an examination/treatment plan first, you run the risk of being underdiagnosed (?decay, oral cancer, periodontal disease), undertreated (insufficient time for removal of all tartar) or overcharged (very little tartar/work to be done, but time booked out so time to be paid for).
Approx 3million Irish people are covered by PRSI& as such are eligible for a checkup once a year at no charge, may be worth checking out.
No point in having shiny white, but loose, teeth:eek:

pillphil

When I first read your post, I thought you were suggesting he do a Basic Periodontal Examination and 6 point pocket charting at home.

Dianthus

pillphil wrote: »

When I first read your post, I thought you were suggesting he do a Basic Periodontal Examination and 6 point pocket charting at home.

Lol, no. To clarify: it's not possible to self
diagnose how much time (&therefore cost) will be involved to clean the teeth fully, without having a full clinical examination first....by a dentist