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English short story?

  • 06-04-2014 7:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭


    For my English junior cert exam in June I am planning on writing a short story for the composition section on paper one. I wrote one really good short story a few months ago for English class. I worked really hard on it and I got 97%. I am able to twist this story to fit the titles for all the English exams since 2003. If I learned off this story for the exam and the title suited on the day would it be okay to use it? Will the examiner recognise that I have rote leaned it? Will I get penalized for this? Thanks :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Irishgirl1998


    Learn it off . My teacher said pick your top 2 stories and learn them off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭ElmW13


    My English teacher tells us that if we are going to use a learnt off essay, so the examiners won't suspect it is learnt off if the see it on the front page of the booklet and dock you marks if the feel you have it learnt off, go in at least four or five pages in the booklet before writing it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    ElmW13 wrote: »
    My English teacher tells us that if we are going to use a learnt off essay, so the examiners won't suspect it is learnt off if the see it on the front page of the booklet and dock you marks if the feel you have it learnt off, go in at least four or five pages in the booklet before writing it :)

    They have to give you the marks unless you don't answer the questions or if you stole it, it's the same in LC, the examiner might know you learned off a Shakespeare essay but they can't not give you the marks for it.

    Just learn it off and do a fake plan above it before you start so that the examiner thinks you wrote it on the spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    They have to give you the marks unless you don't answer the questions or if you stole it, it's the same in LC, the examiner might know you learned off a Shakespeare essay but they can't not give you the marks for it.

    Just learn it off and do a fake plan above it before you start so that the examiner thinks you wrote it on the spot.

    haha thats a good idea thanks so much :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    There's really no need to do that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    spurious wrote: »
    There's really no need to do that.

    Yes but I want to get an A and I struggle to write enough quality material in only an hour


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Kelly090 wrote: »
    Yes but I want to get an A and I struggle to write enough quality material in only an hour

    You will get the marks your essay deserves, whether it is written upside down on the back pages or on the first page. It's the JC, the examiners are trying to give you as many marks as you deserve.
    Having a learned off essay of your own is not an issue really, it's still your work - just be absolutely sure it ties in with the title. Every year there is someone posts here who has slapped down their learned off essay and forgotten to include the phrase or paragraph linking it to the question asked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    spurious wrote: »
    You will get the marks your essay deserves, whether it is written upside down on the back pages or on the first page. It's the JC, the examiners are trying to give you as many marks as you deserve.
    Having a learned off essay of your own is not an issue really, it's still your work - just be absolutely sure it ties in with the title. Every year there is someone posts here who has slapped down their learned off essay and forgotten to include the phrase or paragraph linking it to the question asked.

    Thanks yeah I am not certain about learning off my stories yet just in case I cant incorporate it into the specific titles given to me. Thanks for the advice though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Xgracie


    No meaning to sound all judgey here or anything but like is there really any benefit in learning one off? Like how hard is it to get marks on the essay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Kelly090


    Xgracie wrote: »
    No meaning to sound all judgey here or anything but like is there really any benefit in learning one off? Like how hard is it to get marks on the essay?

    Well since it's worth 70 marks I think its integral that I do well in this section. I suppose you could get away with not studying anything for it but I want an A :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    Kelly090 wrote: »
    Well since it's worth 70 marks I think its integral that I do well in this section. I suppose you could get away with not studying anything for it but I want an A :)

    I learned mine off and got an A :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Bazinga_N


    I made mine up on the day of the exam and got an A - so really it works both ways.

    Learning off an essay is quite unnecessary in my opinion. You're putting more pressure on yourself for no reason. It's a creative writing type question, so be creative and make up a story on the day. It's not the same as an answer to your poetry, fiction or drama questions, where there's certain things needed for marks and stuff. Use good grammar and proper English, be creative and link to the title and I promise you, you'll achieve most of the 70 marks. Don't put too extra pressure on yourself, when there's no need to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    I'd agree with the poster above. There's absolutely no need to learn off a whole essay. I also made up an essay on the spot and got an A. In fact I wouldn't learn off whole answers for any part of the exam including poetry, drama and novel. If you practice enough writing loads of different styles you'll develop your own and be able to write about anything.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Anyone have any sample stories?

    Does this mean 'Anyone want to give me an essay I will learn off and pretend is mine?'
    Then, no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭vcshqkf9rpzgoe


    spurious wrote: »
    Does this mean 'Anyone want to give me an essay I will learn off and pretend is mine?'
    Then, no.

    Why would I do that? What would be the point of the Junior Cert then? I was absent for the majority of the year and obviously missed when we were learning to write the stories so I'm just looking to see what they're supposed to be like. Please stop jumping to conclusions when you don't know what is actually happening in someone's life


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    There are books of short stories if you want samples.
    Go to the library.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭vcshqkf9rpzgoe


    spurious wrote: »
    There are books of short stories if you want samples.
    Go to the library.
    Could you give me some examples of the books?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Exploring English 1 - recently republished, has more short stories than you would ever need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭vcshqkf9rpzgoe


    That has stories from 1967, the world has changed since then....quite considerably


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    That has stories from 1967, the world has changed since then....quite considerably


    You asked about short stories. They are some of the best examples you will ever find.

    Yes, they are older than you. So is Shakespeare.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    That has stories from 1967, the world has changed since then....quite considerably

    It's an excellent book, and the fundamentals of short story writing haven't changed.
    Maybe think before rejecting peoples' advice which you requested :)


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