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Luas - Luas and Bus Combi Tickets to be withdrawn

  • 06-04-2014 10:31am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,647 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.luas.ie/goodbyebusluastickets.html
    Home | News Centre | News | Say Goodbye to BusLuas Combi Tickets
    Say Goodbye to BusLuas Combi Tickets

    It’s time to say goodbye to Bus+Luas Combi Tickets. The last day that Bus+Luas Combi Tickets will be available from Luas Ticket Machines will be Sunday 13th April 2014. This is because Dublin Bus are currently in the process of withdrawing paper tickets and this includes Bus+Luas Combi Tickets.

    If you usually buy a Bus+Luas Combi Ticket the closest alternative for you will be Leap Card provided by Transport For Ireland. There are some really good advantages to switching to Leap Card:

    Leap Card has a 1 Day and 7 Days Cap for travel on Dublin Bus, Luas and DART and some Irish Rail services. Once you hit the Cap value for the 1 Day or the 7 Days (Mon-Sun) you continue to travel as normal, using your Leap Card, but no further Travel Credit is taken from your card.

    Leap Card can be used not only on Dublin Bus, Luas, DART & some Irish Rail services but also on Bus Éireann services in the Greater Dublin Area and some private bus services.

    You can Top Up your Leap Card Travel Credit online and pick it up lots of places i.e. Luas Ticket Machines, Irish Rail Ticket Machines and over 400 Payzone outlets. You can also Top Up at these places.

    Leap Card is secure, you can register your Leap Card online. Then if it's lost or stolen, no one else can use it. Once you register, you can also see your card history and buy Travel Credit online.

    For more information on Leap Card check out www.leapcard.ie

    The other alternative worth checking out is Taxsaver Bus+Luas Monthly or Annual Tickets. There are some really great savings with Taxsaver tickets and you can find all the information at www.Taxsaver.ie

    If you have any questions send us an email at info@luas.ie and we’ll try to help.

    To stay up to date with Luas Follow @Luas on Twitter, Like Luas on Facebook or download a free Luas App on iTunes or Google Play.


    http://www.luas.ie/combi-tickets.html
    Luas Combi Tickets
    Existing Adult Student Child
    1 day €8.80 - €3.60
    7 day €36.00 €30.00 €9.80
    30 day €145.00 €108.00 -

    Dublin Bus/Luas/DART/Commuter Rail
    Proposed Adult Student Child
    Commuter Daily Cap (€) €10.00 €7.50 €3.50
    Commuter Weekly Cap (€ Mon-Sun) €40.00 €30.00 €14.00


Comments

  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    That is a very good student deal, essentially they are going to get DART thrown in for free.

    It's a sensible move to move to tickets based on all modes I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭MGWR


    Leap Card is secure...
    Whenever they say something is "secure", believe the opposite. Looks like they want to encourage more car driving.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Dont see how leap is a comparable replacement when it ends up costing the punter more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,225 ✭✭✭Daith


    It's a small thing but I preferred the paper ticket because I didn't have to tag on/off all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Daith wrote: »
    It's a small thing but I preferred the paper ticket because I didn't have to tag on/off all the time.

    I'm amazed the "Combi" has lasted this long at all.

    It has always been THE most unreliable ticket from a Bus POV.

    The magnetic-stripe element rarely ever functions as designed and the actual print and layout makes it difficult to visually verify with accuracy.

    Withdrawing it is a positive step,however,I feel that the NTA are still behind the game with incentivising Leapcard expansion.

    Junior Minister Kelly appears to be the most informed (interested ?) on the topic,and his words at the Rosie Hackett Bridge event echo'd this.

    I feel he needs to whip the NTA into some form of consciousness regarding the abilities of their Leapcard,perhaps by setting higher targets for ACTUAL useage,rather than merely referring to the numbers of Leapcards in circulation,two TOTALLY different statistics with different meanings.

    One significant improvement would be to have a Flat Multi-Mode Leap Journey option on the Wayfarer Machine,using the current Single Smart Travel90 fare of c.€2.90, which would allow seamless modal transfer within 90 mins. (I know ,I know,I know....It's in the process of being rolled out blah blah etc etc...but Leapcard and it's customers require it NOW :eek: )


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,225 ✭✭✭Daith


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I'm amazed the "Combi" has lasted this long at all.

    It has always been THE most unreliable ticket from a Bus POV.

    The magnetic-stripe element rarely ever functions as designed and the actual print and layout makes it difficult to visually verify with accuracy.

    That's true. Very unreliable on a bus so normally I was waived through. Quicker than the leap card machine :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Daith wrote: »
    That's true. Very unreliable on a bus so normally I was waived through. Quicker than the leap card machine :P

    Too true,Daith...and therein lies a BIG message for the Leapcard people...if they were listening...:(


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Sure them validator machines which took the combi tickets are around 25 years old and completely out of date. The sooner there gone the better.

    Anyone remeber the 2eazy tickets wow that was some loss making ticket 1 for commuter 0 for DB.

    Sure there are students using Irish Rail/DB combi tickets and the machine won't accept them so really how could we be writing the dates on 50 or more tickets at one time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭wicklowwonder


    The weekly bus and luas combo has gone up from €28 just over 2 years ago to now €40 per week for 7 days travel. That is some rise, about 30%, much higher than inflation. Has any other ticket rose that much in just over 2 years?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭JellyBeans92


    devnull wrote: »
    That is a very good student deal, essentially they are going to get DART thrown in for free.

    It's a sensible move to move to tickets based on all modes I think.

    The only thing is though, if you're a student using the Bus+Luas option only, you're now paying €120 a month instead of €108 (an increase of ~10%) purely because they don't seem to have bothered to have the combi ticket available to put on your leapcard*..?
    :pac:


    * Correct me if I've read this wrong


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭dublinman1990



    Sure there are students using Irish Rail/DB combi tickets and the machine won't accept them so really how could we be writing the dates on 50 or more tickets at one time.

    Students should be using them on the leap card machines when in a Dublin Bus like I do myself. Those tickets have a smart-card symbol on them so that is how they are recognised on that machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,414 ✭✭✭markpb


    The only thing is though, if you're a student using the Bus+Luas option only, you're now paying €120 a month instead of €108 (an increase of ~10%) purely because they don't seem to have bothered to have the combi ticket available to put on your leapcard*..?
    :pac:

    I don't see it them as not being bothered to implement, people now automatically get a combo ticket without having to pay up front or even be aware of it. This is exactly why cities implement transit tickets on smartcards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,225 ✭✭✭Daith


    markpb wrote: »
    I don't see it them as not being bothered to implement, people now automatically get a combo ticket without having to pay up front or even be aware of it. This is exactly why cities implement transit tickets on smartcards.

    They automatically get moved to a more expensive option though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,414 ✭✭✭markpb


    Daith wrote: »
    They automatically get moved to a more expensive option though?

    I can't even begin to explain that. God knows why they did that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,592 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    I get the impression they want to simplify the daily/weekly ticket range to just single mode and one multi-rate covering bus/rail/LUAS, rather than bus/rail, bus/LUAS, and rail/LUAS.

    Unfortunately doing that means higher prices for some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,225 ✭✭✭Daith


    lxflyer wrote: »
    I get the impression they want to simplify the daily/weekly ticket range to just single mode and one multi-rate covering bus/rail/LUAS, rather than bus/rail, bus/LUAS, and rail/LUAS.

    Unfortunately doing that means higher prices for some.

    Is there technically any reason why they couldn't have a BUS/Luas cap and a BUS/LUAS/Rail cap?

    I get why they did it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,592 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Daith wrote: »
    Is there technically any reason why they couldn't have a BUS/Luas cap and a BUS/LUAS/Rail cap?

    I get why they did it though.



    I doubt there is - but it would just make things more complicated. To be honest the simpler the ticketing is the better ultimately.


    There are still monthly and annual bi-mode tickets available via taxsaver for those who want them.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    Is there any tickets left that can still be used on the old card reader?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,414 ✭✭✭markpb


    Daith wrote: »
    Is there technically any reason why they couldn't have a BUS/Luas cap and a BUS/LUAS/Rail cap?

    The more tickets/caps, the more space is needed on the cards (pushing up their price) and the longer the transaction takes when tagging on.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    lxflyer wrote: »
    I doubt there is - but it would just make things more complicated. To be honest the simpler the ticketing is the better ultimately.


    There are still monthly and annual bi-mode tickets available via taxsaver for those who want them.

    Taxsaver isnt really much of a choice, its merely an option if the employer is providing it.


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