Insurance company says my original Irish reg is not Irish!

Itsfixed

Had to laugh at this one. My classic insurance brokers rang me today to explain that new legislation requires that all cars here must have an Irish reg, which I understand is to do with the large number of old cars being imported from the UK not being re-registered promptly, which is fine. However, it insists my original Irish 1985 beemer with an old style Dublin registration is not an Irish registration and has to be changed! :rolleyes:

corktina

lol! Morons...embarrass the bejaysus out of them!

bbsrs

Itsfixed wrote: »

Had to laugh at this one. My classic insurance brokers rang me today to explain that new legislation requires that all cars here must have an Irish reg, which I understand is to do with the large number of old cars being imported from the UK not being re-registered promptly, which is fine. However, it insists my original Irish 1985 beemer with an old style Dublin registration is not an Irish registration and has to be changed! :rolleyes:

What are the letters in your reg out of interest?

mountai

I wonder with this new rule , is there any responsibility on the Ins Cos part to do a Reg Check ????. If there is , there will be a lot of questions asked in certain quarters!!!! :eek:

w124man

I asked my young lad about this - him being in the insurance industry - and he says that this is not a new rule! It has always been that you have a maximum time that your insurance is valid on a 'foreign' car, ie if you are collecting a yoke in England you can insure the car on either the reg plate or the VIN for a period of (I think) a month. We really are very lax in this country!

As for the insurance company not knowing the Irish reg plate ...... they are only young ones and they ain't got a clue

macplaxton

I thought it was the 42 day rule.

Any insurance in force for more than 42 days on a foreign plate and they are obliged to grass you up to the revenue.

If the insurer wants to insure it for a whole year, they can do it if they want to.

macplaxton

Found it:

Finance Act 2010, S111.

2) A vehicle insurer who issues a policy of insurance to a person for a period in excess of 42 days in relation to an unregistered vehicle shall, within one month of the date of issue of the policy of insurance, make a return to the Commissioners of the following particulars—....

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2010/en/act/pub/0005/sec0111.html

and

Vehicle Registration and Taxation (Amendment) Regulations 2010

(i) make an appointment for a pre-registration examination with the competent person concerned not later than 7 days after the manufacture or arrival in the State of the vehicle, and


(ii) register the vehicle to the satisfaction of the Commissioners not later than 30 days after its manufacture or arrival in the State.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2010/en/si/0400.html

Really, I think what the broker was trying to convey (badly) after mis-indentifying an original series Irish Registration as a non-State one was these two, now old rules, combined.

macplaxton

w124man wrote: »

It has always been that you have a maximum time that your insurance is valid on a 'foreign' car,

Well that's down to an individual insurer to decide in their own terms and conditions. It might be that they all decide of their own free will to put a limit on it, but it doesn't appear to be laid down by the law.

_Conrad_

Itsfixed wrote: »

Had to laugh at this one. My classic insurance brokers rang me today to explain that new legislation requires that all cars here must have an Irish reg, which I understand is to do with the large number of old cars being imported from the UK not being re-registered promptly, which is fine. However, it insists my original Irish 1985 beemer with an old style Dublin registration is not an Irish registration and has to be changed! :rolleyes:

What you are dealing with there, is an idiot.
This had reminded me of a time I was asked if an opel rekord i was driving was polish. Was asked by some teenagers in dublin. They said they'd never seen an old reg it was 516 TZK (now deceased) they assumed it was a foreign reg

swarlb

_Conrad_ wrote: »

What you are dealing with there, is an idiot.
This had reminded me of a time I was asked if an opel rekord i was driving was polish. Was asked by some teenagers in dublin. They said they'd never seen an old reg it was 516 TZK (now deceased) they assumed it was a foreign reg

A bit harsh to say that he/she is an idiot. Just because someone is not aware of something does not imply they are mentally deficient in some way.
The last time these registrations were in place was 27 years ago, and they probably constitute a minute proportion of enquiries by Insurance companies.
Were those Dublin teenagers 'idiots' as well.
For example, is ERI 90 an 'original Irish' registration, or a trade plate ?

porsche959

swarlb wrote: »

A bit harsh to say that he/she is an idiot. Just because someone is not aware of something does not imply they are mentally deficient in some way.
The last time these registrations were in place was 27 years ago, and they probably constitute a minute proportion of enquiries by Insurance companies.
Were those Dublin teenagers 'idiots' as well.
For example, is ERI 90 an 'original Irish' registration, or a trade plate ?

Someone working in an insurance company that specialises in insuring classics and is not aware of this basic info can be fairly called an idiot.

Some random teenager on the street that isn't aware, not necessarily.

swarlb

porsche959 wrote: »

Someone working in an insurance company that specialises in insuring classics and is not aware of this basic info can be fairly called an idiot.

Some random teenager on the street that isn't aware, not necessarily.

No they don't, and no-one deserves to be called such, just because they may not know something. There is more of a similarity between older UK and Irish plates, than there is a difference. I doubt if Insurance companies send staff on a course on number plate recognition. The person made a mistake, plain and simple. I'm certain you yourself don't know everything, would you like to be called an idiot each time you mess up.