Cant get Spirit Radio with Digital FM Radio

danjo-xx

Hope I'm in the right place. Have two Portable Radio's with digital tuners, they tune in steps of 5 at at time, eg. 88.60, 88.65, 88.70 and so on.

Down here in Waterford Spirit is right beside RTE1. So looks like the digital tuner is skipping over it.

I can get it on analoge radio's no probs.

Please don't ask why I want it all all

Stitchy

Manually tune your "digital" radio to 90.1 mHz.

danjo-xx

Stitchy wrote: »

Manually tune your "digital" radio to 90.1 mHz.

I set them up by manual tuning, but they still go up in steps of 0.5

Stitchy

In your OP, you say there are .05 mHz (50 kHz) steps. I've never seen a radio that tuned in .5 mHz steps.

endacl

Digital radio got taste! Smart tech.

Stitchy

It's an analogue FM radio with digital display & buttons for tuning, not DAB.

danjo-xx

Stitchy wrote: »

It's an analogue FM radio with digital display & buttons for tuning, not DAB.

These are the radios in question


http://www.amazon.com/Sony-CFD-E100-Portable-Cassette-Recorder/dp/B0007RPW36

Says Digital AM/FM Stereo Tuner

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-RX-ED50-Silver-Portable-Stereo/dp/B00005K469/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Says FM/AM Digital Synthesizer Tuner

I understood these to be digital tuners not just digital display, I know their not DAB receivers

Stitchy

An FM radio intended for European use, should at least tune in 50 kHz steps, regardless of how the tuner/demodulator is implemented.

watty

North America: 87.9 - 107.9 MHz, 200 kHz steps, 75 us de-emphasis
Europe: 87.5 - 108.0 MHz, 100 kHz steps, 50 us de-emphasis

Unfortunately there are MANY products only intended for USA being sold in Europe.

A Digital Synthesiser based Tuner for VHF-FM for North America only, is useless in Europe. We are in Europe. The radio ought to have 100kHz or 50kHz steps.

Under Sale of Goods Act you can return it for Repair / Replacement /Refund as it's not fit for purpose and mis-described if sold for Europe.

If it's a "grey" import to Ireland from an International seller not offered specifically for Europe you wasted your money.

The "de-emphasis" difference is serious on headphones or a hi fi.

An ITU conference in Geneva, Switzerland, on December 7, 1984, resolved to discontinue the use of 50 kHz channel spacings throughout Europe.

I don't think any Irish stations use 50kHz steps. Italy might be only place in Europe using 50KHz steps.

Some Eastern European countries parts of Russia still use 65.8 to 74 MHz
Japan still uses 76 to 90MHz.

Brazil instead of stupid DAB is extending VHF-FM from 88 .. 108 to about 68 .. 108 I think.
You can get some cheap Asian sets that do 64MHz to 137 MHz.

There are Digital and Analogue Radios:

• Analogue includes AM, FM , NBFM, SSB (USB, LSB) and CW modulation.
• Digital includes GMSK, QPSK, QAM, DAB, DAB+, DRM, DRM+, DVB and DMB encoding

LW, MW, SW, VHF and UHF are radio bands and all can have Analogue modulation or some suitable Digital encoded signal.
Digitally encoded Radio transmits binary data using a particular codec such as MP2, AAC, AC3, etc (MP3 isn't used on Radio Transmission only on streaming on internet or in files). Digital mobile phones and DECT handsets use other codecs (Coder / Decoders).

An Analogue Radio can have four senses of "Digital"
(some can have all of last three).

1. Simply a digital frequency counter as display. Tuning is Analogue.
2. A Synthesised PLL tuner. It only does large fixed steps.
3. A DDS based tuner. (It may use Synthesised PLL for band or part of band). It can do steps of a fraction of 1Hz, 10Hz (0.000,001 MHz) step is common.
4. A DSP based implementation. This may only be demodulator and IF and still use PLL or DDS