second round of fertilizer

case 956

anybody go with second round yet or is it too tricky with forecast? due to start 2nd round thurs or fri next week but put out 46 units of urea on 4th march, want to go with another 46 units but afraid of the recent hevy rain we had and more forecat for week what yer opinion and advice as should I spread tomorrow or what?

Greengrass1

Went with 3 rd bag of can today.
Artic of fert on its way thus week so we will spread some silage manure then

frazzledhome

case 956 wrote: »

anybody go with second round yet or is it too tricky with forecast? due to start 2nd round thurs or fri next week but put out 46 units of urea on 4th march, want to go with another 46 units but afraid of the recent hevy rain we had and more forecat for week what yer opinion and advice as should I spread tomorrow or what?

Horse it out. We went with 50 units urea this week, 1 bag out in March. Need to have >100 out soon

C4d78

case 956 wrote: »

anybody go with second round yet or is it too tricky with forecast? due to start 2nd round thurs or fri next week but put out 46 units of urea on 4th march, want to go with another 46 units but afraid of the recent hevy rain we had and more forecat for week what yer opinion and advice as should I spread tomorrow or what?

Definitely get it out. Need to be up to 90-100 units soon

A cow called Daisy

case 956 wrote: »

anybody go with second round yet or is it too tricky with forecast? due to start 2nd round thurs or fri next week but put out 46 units of urea on 4th march, want to go with another 46 units but afraid of the recent hevy rain we had and more forecat for week what yer opinion and advice as should I spread tomorrow or what?

Would i need to get first round out before i do second round. No fertilizer spread or cows out within at least 2 mile radius of me here. And after rain yesterday it will be a few more days at best.

Round Bale

10:10:20 on the grazing ground three weeks ago. 2 bags. Not much to show for it by way of grass because most days coldish.
Just starting to make progress these last few days though.
Was thinking about putting on a bag of CAN tomorrow, to sort of help it along and be ready for the second round of grazing. Probably start grazing next week with bull and few cows / calves!

Would that make sense?

mahoney_j

110 units out on all grazing area and silage ground closed and got 110 units n as well as p and k

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

110 units out on all grazing area and silage ground closed and got 110 units n as well as p and k

That's a lot of N.
Will you have enough of your allowance left to last till autumn?

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

That's a lot of N.
Will you have enough of your allowance left to last till autumn?

Of course I will,always try and have 100 out for 1 April.its working second round starting Monday and 1250 on it today

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

That's a lot of N.
Will you have enough of your allowance left to last till autumn?

Of course I will,always try and have 100 out for 1 April.its working second round starting Monday and 1250 on it today

farmernewbie

Jesus Lads, ye put out some amount of fert. 3 bags of 18.6.12 to the acre good enough for silage ground if I close off now and cut last week in May.

Round Bale

mahoney_j wrote: »

Of course I will,always try and have 100 out for 1 April.its working second round starting Monday and 1250 on it today

Jayzuz, .... You're not on the wet windy side if the Shannon -:)

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Of course I will,always try and have 100 out for 1 April.its working second round starting Monday and 1250 on it today

1050 on mine starting tomorrow.
There very slow eating grass now since I changed meal.
Cut 1kg of the grass consumption

mahoney_j

farmernewbie wrote: »

Jesus Lads, ye put out some amount of fert. 3 bags of 18.6.12 to the acre good enough for silage ground if I close off now and cut last week in May.

That and a bag of urea Nd ur sorted

farmernewbie

mahoney_j wrote: »

That and a bag of urea Nd ur sorted

Urea come in the same granular form as 18.6.12? Could I put it all on together? Don't have the machinery so will be paying a neighbour to do it.

mahoney_j

farmernewbie wrote: »

Urea come in the same granular form as 18.6.12? Could I put it all on together? Don't have the machinery so will be paying a neighbour to do it.

Yep but you'd spread the 18 6 12 first then follow up a few days later with urea.

PureBred

Would it be OK to fire out some gran lime before the fert. Land has just got slurry last week.

case 956

Greengrass1 wrote: »

That's a lot of N.
Will you have enough of your allowance left to last till autumn?

ah fill or 2 of dairy nuts does a lot for that problem :P

ABlur

farmernewbie wrote: »

Urea come in the same granular form as 18.6.12? Could I put it all on together? Don't have the machinery so will be paying a neighbour to do it.

Hey Newbie think your not heavily stocked with a need for big silage yields? 3 bags 18-6-12 per acre grew 10 bales per acre for me last year. Wouldn't bother with anymore as paying contractor by the bale.

mahoney_j

case 956 wrote: »

ah fill or 2 of dairy nuts does a lot for that problem :P

What do u mean by that case,I don't understand.......!!

farmernewbie

ABlur wrote: »

Hey Newbie think your not heavily stocked with a need for big silage yields? 3 bags 18-6-12 per acre grew 10 bales per acre for me last year. Wouldn't bother with anymore as paying contractor by the bale.

Hi Ablur,

Ya I only keep a few weanlings and take a cut of silage of 80% of ground. I sell most of the silage of the field by the bale and keep some and sell over the winter.

Thought the extra fert may produce a better crop and enable me to cut sooner and get faster regrowth.

The fert is costly so now sure how many extra bales it would produce and if it's worth it.

What you think?

ABlur

farmernewbie wrote: »

Hi Ablur,

Ya I only keep a few weanlings and take a cut of silage of 80% of ground. I sell most of the silage of the field by the bale and keep some and sell over the winter.

Thought the extra fert may produce a better crop and enable me to cut sooner and get faster regrowth.

The fert is costly so now sure how many extra bales it would produce and if it's worth it.

What you think?

Am at much the same myself. Not a fan or urea, I'm on heavy land in West Clare so wont get a chance to get urea out when it works best ie spring. Also adding the extra N from urea on top of 18-6-12 now will mean you have to cut later so that the N is worked through the grass. I costed making round bales here last summer as close to €20 when contractor costs, fertilisers and lime included. Selling them for €22 with a lot of haggling! Going to up the number of cattle and hopefully reduce the bales as a result this summer and see where it goes.

farmernewbie

ABlur wrote: »

Am at much the same myself. Not a fan or urea, I'm on heavy land in West Clare so wont get a chance to get urea out when it works best ie spring. Also adding the extra N from urea on top of 18-6-12 now will mean you have to cut later so that the N is worked through the grass. I costed making round bales here last summer as close to €20 when contractor costs, fertilisers and lime included. Selling them for €22 with a lot of haggling! Going to up the number of cattle and hopefully reduce the bales as a result this summer and see where it goes.

Thanks, in the same boat, have had lads pay from €11 to €14 for bales in the field. They pay contractor costs. Think thats not bad but always hanging on and lads not sure whether they will take it or not until near cutting it. Also some lads keep you waiting for payment. Would be robbed if I had to keep it all myself.

Sell the stuff I keep for €20 to €25 during winter. Hope to do a bit of reseeding and improve grass quality but as you said if I keep a few more stock and could make €200 a head on them and cut down fert bill might be more profitable.