civil dispute

2012paddy2012

I employed a "builder" in early 2010 to complete an extension.
within the last two months I have discovered that he built the extension completely ignoring all the technical spec of products used EG tiles /velux windows.
I have the extension certified to that effect. The roof is incompetently constructed which has been the cause of constant leaking since the first bad weather since it was built.

This guy has moved abroad. He has a property here.

Can I go to the local police station inform them I have a civil dispute with this guy and I intend to call to his property , and enter and remove his property to the value of 5000 euro (TVS/Sofas etc). I have a receipt signed in his name for extension.
I have made him aware via email of the problem and price to repair.
Any advice appreciated.

sopretty

Lol, no you can't.

2012paddy2012

sopretty wrote: »

Lol, no you can't.

why not.

sopretty

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

why not.

Because it would be something like

A: Breaking and entering
B: Burglary
C: Theft

Not sure which ones would apply to you, but no, you can't just do that.

mightyreds

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

why not.

Would that not be stealing if you don't have any permission to take it?

Edit: beaten to it

Pro Hoc Vice

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

why not.

I really assume a late April fools.

2012paddy2012

sopretty wrote: »

Because it would be something like

A: Breaking and entering
B: Burglary
C: Theft

Not sure which ones would apply to you, but no, you can't just do that.

I have a civil dispute. Burglary - I do not intend to steal his stuff. I intend to return it when I am paid. I will be informing cops that I am going to enter due to a civil dispute. I will hold the stuff and return it if and when paid...this is hypothetical of course.

sopretty

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

I really assume a late April fools.

Ah FFS lol - this is my third time today haha.

Bring on the 2nd of April.

2012paddy2012

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

I really assume a late April fools.

no. its a law question

2012paddy2012

sopretty wrote: »

Ah FFS lol - this is my third time today haha.

Bring on the 2nd of April.

no need to reply if you have no legal knowledge ..thks

Afroshack

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

no need to reply if you have no legal knowledge ..thks

You don't need legal knowledge to know that what you propose to do is breaking and entering. So no, you can't do that.

Pro Hoc Vice

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

no. its a law question

It's not a law question, it is not possible to get permission from AGS to in effect commit a number of crimes.

If you really want to try this go to Garda Station and ask, they will at best assume its an April fools at worst they may call a doctor.

Ken.

1. Bring builder to court.
2.Win
3.Seek damages.
4.Return to court to get enforcement order.
5.Employ Sheriff to recover goods to the value of your claim.

Step 1-5 needs probably a €10-15k outlay by you and should take 3-4 years start to finish.
Oh and if the Sheriff can't recover goods your stuck with all the bills.

Pat Mustard

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

Can I go to the local police station inform them I have a civil dispute with this guy and I intend to call to his property , and enter and remove his property to the value of 5000 euro (TVS/Sofas etc). I have a receipt signed in his name for extension.

Normally people sign confessions at the police station after they commit the crime. :pac:

In any case, I think I remember one of your previous posts in relation to your building dispute, OP.

I would suggest that you get as much information as you can (to include photos, maps, if possible) about the builder's Irish property, and bring that info to a solicitor, who may be able to carry out searches and advise you if said builder would be a 'mark' in relation to a possible civil action.

2012paddy2012

ken wrote: »

1. Bring builder to court.
2.Win
3.Seek damages.
4.Return to court to get enforcement order.
5.Employ Sheriff to recover goods to the value of your claim.

Step 1-5 needs probably a €10-15k outlay by you and should take 3-4 years start to finish.
Oh and if the Sheriff can't recover goods your stuck with all the bills.

thks!

2012paddy2012

The Mustard wrote: »

Normally people sign confessions at the police station after they commit the crime. :pac:

In any case, I think I remember one of your previous posts in relation to your building dispute, OP.

I would suggest that you get as much information (to include photos, maps, if possible) about the builder's Irish property, and bring that info to a solicitor, who may be able to carry out searches and advise you if said builder would be a 'mark' in relation to a possible civil action.

your correct! I thought I would exaggerate to get maximum notice and results.......:D:D:D:D:D job done.... cheers

whupdedo

2012paddy2012 wrote: »

I employed a "builder" in early 2010 to complete an extension.
within the last two months I have discovered that he built the extension completely ignoring all the technical spec of products used EG tiles /velux windows.
I have the extension certified to that effect. The roof is incompetently constructed which has been the cause of constant leaking since the first bad weather since it was built.

This guy has moved abroad. He has a property here.

Can I go to the local police station inform them I have a civil dispute with this guy and I intend to call to his property , and enter and remove his property to the value of 5000 euro (TVS/Sofas etc). I have a receipt signed in his name for extension.
I have made him aware via email of the problem and price to repair.
Any advice appreciated.

Theirs absolutely no reason why you shouldn't do this, he robbed you of your hard earned money, you have every right to enter his house unlawfully and steal all his gear to the tune of 5 grand

chops018

whupdedo wrote: »

Theirs absolutely no reason why you shouldn't do this, he robbed you of your hard earned money, you have every right to enter his house unlawfully and steal all his gear to the tune of 5 grand

The amount of contradictions and errors in this post makes my head hurt.

whupdedo

chops018 wrote: »

The amount of contradictions and errors in this post makes my head hurt.

Read it slowly and pronounce your words individually, and then look in the dictionary under S for sarcasm

chops018

whupdedo wrote: »

Read it slowly and pronounce your words individually, and then look in the dictionary under S for sarcasm

Excuse me for not being able to detect sarcasm from reading a poorly phrased sentence.

whupdedo

chops018 wrote: »

Excuse me for not being able to detect sarcasm from reading a poorly phrased sentence.

Your excused

Pro Hoc Vice

chops018 wrote: »

Excuse me for not being able to detect sarcasm from reading a poorly phrased sentence.

I think the giveaway was "unlawfully". It kinda told me it was a pisstake post.

chops018

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

I think the giveaway was "unlawfully". It kinda told me it was a pisstake post.

You wouldn't know with people on this site sometimes.

Kettleson

You employed a cowboy. On what basis did you make your decision to employ him? Price? IMO you haven't got a chance of getting a cent. Move one.

Ken.

In my honest opinion what you'd spend on solicitors would probably fix the problems you have. Like I said in my previous post you could spend thousands,end up with nothing and still have a ****ty extension.

JimsAlterEgo

ken wrote: »

In my honest opinion what you'd spend on solicitors would probably fix the problems you have. Like I said in my previous post you could spend thousands,end up with nothing and still have a ****ty extension.

exacrtly if it only cost you 5K am suprised its still standing

whupdedo

Another classic example of always going with the cheapest quote

2012paddy2012

Kettleson wrote: »

You employed a cowboy. On what basis did you make your decision to employ him? Price? IMO you haven't got a chance of getting a cent. Move one.

checked reference/ asked to brought to other completed jobs. No complaints from other people he did work for. took him at his word. Knew nothing about roofs though. yep caught out ...annoyed he can just walk away .....funny old country ..banana republic as bob said lol

2012paddy2012

ken wrote: »

In my honest opinion what you'd spend on solicitors would probably fix the problems you have. Like I said in my previous post you could spend thousands,end up with nothing and still have a ****ty extension.

agreed will do that thks

2012paddy2012

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

exacrtly if it only cost you 5K am suprised its still standing

5K quote to re do roof. rest ok ...surprisingly! ext cost just under 30 k couple yrs ago ..always had leaks....knew nothing about roof pitches etc at that time ..do now...too late tho

2012paddy2012

whupdedo wrote: »

Another classic example of always going with the cheapest quote

incorrect assumption