my revised 911 theory

DamagedTrax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIhdReD6MAo

after watching 'core of corruption: in the shadows' (great film, everyone should see it), ive revised my own thinking on 911, as follows.


Corporations
halliburton, the military complex, the trans afgahnistan pipeline, the carlyle group.. this really doesnt need explaining

The US
not directly involved but certain smaller neocon governmental departments knew about it, let it happen and facilitated free movement of the terrorists in and around the states.
a quote in CoC really said it all about bush's personal involvement. "George Bush always wondered why he got into power, on sept 11 he found out". his election brought certain people back in the fold that had been frozen out during clinton's term. the invasion of iraq wasnt george finishing up daddy's work, it was cheney, rumsfeld et all finishing their own plan.

Pakistan
i think they were used to lure the terrorists in and recruit them for the job. they may have played the instigator, facilitator and paymaster, as most 'al qaeda' (:D) cells were operating in their northern regions at the time.

Israel
the israelis (again small ultra zionist factions) were tasked with bringing the towers down from the inside. what leads me to this conclusion, was the dancing israelis and the similiar van found packed with explosions at the brooklyn bridge.
in a place like wtc, multiple service vehicles would not have been out of place on the lower levels. strategically placed and packed full of explosives, these could be detonated after the plane crashes, without the fear of too many questions being asked in the confusion.
there's also the silverstein angle. huge supporter of the state of israel and benifitted financially in a massive way from the event.

Saudi arabia.
this is where the real money that funded the event came from IMO. why is a nation that is a hot bed of anti-western sentiment not considered part of the old axis of evil? because they play ball with their oil and they have a lot of what matters most, money.

The terrorists:
i think there may have been a terror plot involving multiple hijacking but i think the terrorists fell deep into a bigger plot they had no idea about. i think they were allowed take the planes and get them to a certain point but then remote control kicked in and that was the end of their involvement. the abel danger farce legitimises this theory IMO.

Building 7
what do you do when you have a building full of state department offices and damning evidence?


Everyone now knows how the event benefited the bush regime, and the other countries involved have since enjoyed support (or at least little interest) from a country that seems to want to invade every other country in the region.

Brown Bomber

DamagedTrax wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIhdReD6MAo

after watching 'core of corruption: in the shadows' (great film, everyone should see it), ive revised my own thinking on 911, as follows.


Corporations
halliburton, the military complex, the trans afgahnistan pipeline, the carlyle group.. this really doesnt need explaining

The US
not directly involved but certain smaller neocon governmental departments knew about it, let it happen and facilitated free movement of the terrorists in and around the states.
a quote in CoC really said it all about bush's personal involvement. "George Bush always wondered why he got into power, on sept 11 he found out". his election brought certain people back in the fold that had been frozen out during clinton's term. the invasion of iraq wasnt george finishing up daddy's work, it was cheney, rumsfeld et all finishing their own plan.

Pakistan
i think they were used to lure the terrorists in and recruit them for the job. they may have played the instigator, facilitator and paymaster, as most 'al qaeda' (:D) cells were operating in their northern regions at the time.

Israel
the israelis (again small ultra zionist factions) were tasked with bringing the towers down from the inside. what leads me to this conclusion, was the dancing israelis and the similiar van found packed with explosions at the brooklyn bridge.
in a place like wtc, multiple service vehicles would not have been out of place on the lower levels. strategically placed and packed full of explosives, these could be detonated after the plane crashes, without the fear of too many questions being asked in the confusion.
there's also the silverstein angle. huge supporter of the state of israel and benifitted financially in a massive way from the event.

Saudi arabia.
this is where the real money that funded the event came from IMO. why is a nation that is a hot bed of anti-western sentiment not considered part of the old axis of evil? because they play ball with their oil and they have a lot of what matters most, money.

The terrorists:
i think there may have been a terror plot involving multiple hijacking but i think the terrorists fell deep into a bigger plot they had no idea about. i think they were allowed take the planes and get them to a certain point but then remote control kicked in and that was the end of their involvement. the abel danger farce legitimises this theory IMO.

Building 7
what do you do when you have a building full of state department offices and damning evidence?


Everyone now knows how the event benefited the bush regime, and the other countries involved have since enjoyed support (or at least little interest) from a country that seems to want to invade every other country in the region.

This is all very interesting. I think a piece of the jigsaw, though not the final piece is the "deep state". It is what ties all of what you mentioned together. It's what the Kennedys tried to put an end to and everyone knows what happened to them.


I read an excellent scholarly article by Peter Dale Scott, a former Professor and diplomat recently, which is an excellent history lesson. Maybe you can find it?

Brown Bomber

D.455 "The Deep State and the Wall Street Overworld"

There is a lot to take in in that article. I'll try to explain really concisely how it could relate to 911. The US buys oil from the Saudis, the Saudis use this money to buy arms from Lockheed Martin etc. During these processes money is skimmed off by Saudi Agents and the CIA and laundered into funds setup to finance covert operations, for example terrorist hijackers, sub contracting demolitions jobs to dancing Mossad agents.

The point being that it doesn't matter who is in the White House, they don't control this. See Iran/Contra.

DamagedTrax

found it here http://www.japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/4090

gonna get stuck into that tonight, thanks.

BuilderPlumber

Saudi Arabia is the main sponsor of 95% of so-called 'Islamic terrorism'. It is no coincidence that most of al Qaeda came from there. A blind eye is turned by the US to this because of the Saudi's willingness to give the West oil, hell even Israel turns a blind eye to Saudi's massive funding of Hamas.

Brown Bomber

DamagedTrax wrote: »

found it here http://www.japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/4090

gonna get stuck into that tonight, thanks.

Can I offer you another suggestion? It's by another Professor and is a lot more sophisticated than Alex Jones and his New World Order guff. Guess who CNN interview though.


http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Beyond_Conspiracy_Theory

Conas

Brown Bomber wrote: »

This is all very interesting. I think a piece of the jigsaw, though not the final piece is the "deep state". It is what ties all of what you mentioned together. It's what the Kennedys tried to put an end to and everyone knows what happened to them.


I read an excellent scholarly article by Peter Dale Scott, a former Professor and diplomat recently, which is an excellent history lesson. Maybe you can find it?

Very true! Just look up Operation Northwoods that was landed on JFK's desk to sign-off on. Which he didn't thankfully.

Then there's Israel's Nuclear Weapons Program, which he was the last President to be totally against. He even went so far as to threaten to cut off aid to them if they didn't allow inspections. David Ben-Gurion even stepped down due to the pressure. Kennedy didn't give up, and even demanded from his predecessor inspections to the plant.

Then look at his brother RFK's assassination. Of all the people, and all the countries in the world that the patsy had to come from, it had to be an Arab from Palestine. Now just think about that for one moment. Of all the countries and men in the world that happened to be in California to kill him, it was a Palestinian. Yeah right! 'By way of deception we shall wage war'

Then role along to 9/11, and the Anthrax attack. Up comes the whole support for Israel as a motivation once investigated.

It's very obvious when you see through the deception what's really happening.

wannabegard

Jesus people. get over yourselves. 9/11 was an absolute tragedy thousands died..including my uncle. How many more have died because of the war on terror. Stop with these stupid conspiracy theories. Even if they are true there is absolutly nothing you can do about it. Look at the 911 footage. DO you really think that A GOVERNMENT WOULD DO THAT TO ITS OWN PEOPLE!! Everytime i watch those videos i look at it with shock and sadness. Think of the families of those who died. They dont want to be listening to that tripe anymore.

weisses

wannabegard wrote: »

Jesus people. get over yourselves. 9/11 was an absolute tragedy thousands died..including my uncle. How many more have died because of the war on terror. Stop with these stupid conspiracy theories. Even if they are true there is absolutly nothing you can do about it. Look at the 911 footage. DO you really think that A GOVERNMENT WOULD DO THAT TO ITS OWN PEOPLE!! Everytime i watch those videos i look at it with shock and sadness. Think of the families of those who died. They dont want to be listening to that tripe anymore.

Then stop watching and reading stuff about 9/11 if it makes you that upset

Red Nissan

wannabegard wrote: »

Jesus people. get over yourselves. 9/11 was an absolute tragedy thousands died..including my uncle. How many more have died because of the war on terror. Stop with these stupid conspiracy theories. Even if they are true there is absolutly nothing you can do about it. Look at the 911 footage. DO you really think that A GOVERNMENT WOULD DO THAT TO ITS OWN PEOPLE!! Everytime i watch those videos i look at it with shock and sadness. Think of the families of those who died. They dont want to be listening to that tripe anymore.

YES!

DamagedTrax

wannabegard wrote: »

Jesus people. get over yourselves. 9/11 was an absolute tragedy thousands died..including my uncle. How many more have died because of the war on terror. Stop with these stupid conspiracy theories. Even if they are true there is absolutly nothing you can do about it. Look at the 911 footage. DO you really think that A GOVERNMENT WOULD DO THAT TO ITS OWN PEOPLE!! Everytime i watch those videos i look at it with shock and sadness. Think of the families of those who died. They dont want to be listening to that tripe anymore.

firstly, given that you're posting in a conspiracy theory forum i thought you'd have got the idea of what gets talked about in here.

also, in a recent CBS/New York Times poll of americans, 84% said they didnt believe the official story.

im sure people initially didnt believe 'the tripe' regarding vietnam, korea, chile, indonesia/east timor etc (the list gets longer as the years go by)... but everything comes out in the wash eventually.

BuilderPlumber

wannabegard wrote: »

Jesus people. get over yourselves. 9/11 was an absolute tragedy thousands died..including my uncle. How many more have died because of the war on terror. Stop with these stupid conspiracy theories. Even if they are true there is absolutly nothing you can do about it. Look at the 911 footage. DO you really think that A GOVERNMENT WOULD DO THAT TO ITS OWN PEOPLE!! Everytime i watch those videos i look at it with shock and sadness. Think of the families of those who died. They dont want to be listening to that tripe anymore.

Whatever about Bush's government being involved in 9/11, I do believe they used it for all it was worth to fulfill their political aims. Getting rid of Saddam was on Bush's agenda and a preplanned Iraq war was on the cards. Now, 9/11 allowed an excuse for America to go to war with public approval. Of course, Bush framed Saddam here and included him conveniently in the war against those who 'did 9/11'. Supposedly, infighting in the secret service and CIA/FBI rivalries caused a poor response to the drugged up terrorists who hijacked the planes and the drug dealers who orchestrated it in Afghanistan.

Al Qaeda wanted 4 things from 9/11: chaos in the Middle East especially the fall of Iran and Iraq, world domination, free passageway for their heroin and control of oil as a weapon.

The US wanted prior to 9/11: to get rid of Saddam, to control Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Russia's backyard, to contain Russia, to dominate the oil market and stop rising superpowers like Iran and Iraq if they were allowed grow.

The aims and objects frighteningly sound similar.