250 Cork homes campaign to get proper internet, mobile and landline services

bealtine

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/cork-no-landline-internet-mobile-access-1386597-Mar2014/

MORE THAN 250 homes in Cork have been pushing both the government and service providers to bring basic internet, mobile and landline service to their area.
Residents in the areas of Courtbrack, Foxes Bridge and Mathey – which are located less than 24 kilometers away from Cork City and eight kilometers from the town of Blarney – have been pushing for local and national services to rectify the situation for the past two years, but to no avail.
Since these homes are based in a valley which affects the signal in the area, it has meant that most of them have been without internet and mobile reception, and in some cases, without landline services.
One of the residents campaigning, Ronnie Dorney, has said while not having these services didn’t affect them too much in the past, the growing reliance on the web when working at home, or to study for second and third-level education, has put the residents at a disadvantage.
“It seems like we are falling between exchanges” said Dorney. “Nobody [we've been in contact with] can confirm to me what the situation is… we’re not even looking for high speeds at this moment, we’re looking for internet access.”
The lack of reception and infrastructure means committing to a contract from a service provider isn’t a possibility, leaving residents in a situation where they’re could be “paying three bills when we don’t have any satisfactory service.”
“Anyone who goes there is tied into a contract for 12 months and because [the reception] is so bad out here, it’s very difficult for us to commit to twelve months.” explained Dorney. “We would nearly have to get a trial or a guarantee out here [first before we could commit].”
Acknowledgement
The situation has become so bad that the locals are in discussion with a number of private service providers about erecting a radio mast in the area. She mentioned “there are plenty of high spots [in the area]” for a mast to help improve the situation.
Since then, the residents have received acknowledgement from Pat Rabbitte, from the Taoiseach and from Eircom about the problem, with the latter promising to visit the area next week to see if there’s a suitable site in the area for a radio mast.
Another broadband provider, Airwaves, will also be visiting the area next week to inspect a number of areas the residents have marked down as suitable for a radio mast.
Apart from the possibility of a radio mast being erected, the other solution is the ESB (Electronic Communications Network) Bill 2013. The bill, which is currently going through the Dáil and Seanad, would allow the ESB to offer its network infrastructure to deliver fiber services.
While that will help out, Dorney says they will continue to push ahead with their current plans on the off-chance the ESB bill ends up not being available in their area.
The locals have been supported by Fine Gael’s Cork North-Central Senator Colm Burke, who became involved six months ago. He described attempts to get answers and the response to his inquiries as “total and absolute frustration,” after been communicating with eircom and other mobile service providers during this period.
Burke recently put forward a motion which will require any houses looking for planning permission to have access to adequate communication services first before they have been built.
It’s expected this motion will be discussed at the Dáil on Thursday.

watty

Well a Fixed Wireless mast would give real Broadband. But a mobile phone mast would let about 15 users of the 250 households and businesses have poor simultaneous Internet.

Mobile isn't a Broadband solution. It's no solution at all for FIXED users unless about x10 the density of masts are installed.

bealtine

watty wrote: »

Well a Fixed Wireless mast would give real Broadband. But a mobile phone mast would let about 15 users of the 250 households and businesses have poor simultaneous Internet.

Mobile isn't a Broadband solution. It's no solution at all for FIXED users unless about x10 the density of masts are installed.

Absolutely FWA is a far better option than mobile but that's a difficult message to get across lots of people equate mobile with broadband. Usually they realize after using it for a while that it's not a solution...but then it's too late

watty

It's not helped by our Government and the Regulator dishonestly promoting Mobile as Broadband and the Advertising & Consumer watch dogs allowing the Mobile companies to advertise Mobile as Broadband.

I think any Internet access not involving dial up is regarded as Broadband, which is nonsense.

I suspect the Civil Service is a prime mover on the dishonest promotion of Mobile as Broadband as Comreg is really a Civil Service Quango and the Politicians all toe the previous "official" line on the subject as soon as in Government.

We can't emphasis often enough that calling Mobile (or Satellite) a "Broadband" service is dishonest and misleading. 4G / LTE gives operator savings, easier management and somewhat more efficiency than EDGE or 3G, but per same size channel, not a huge amount and unless it has the range of a WiFi Point (which is economically impossible) it can't give broadband performance.

Even 250Mbps WiFi can slow to 2Mbps easily if you have 4 users and one has a poorer signal.

It can't be said often enough
Theoretical peak speed is NO INDICATION AT ALL of real life average speeds at peak usage time periods for average locations. Mobile easily can be 1/400th of peak speed!
Fixed wireless can vary with user / time by 2:1 and is ALWAYS ON, Mobile variation for the same user is typically 50:1, only connects on demand, and may not connect or may drop connection.

But Fibre is the best solution. It's far far cheaper than enough Mobile masts to give an average 1Mbps and 1/20th of cost that Mobile would be to give a MINIMUM 1Mbps at peak times.