35 Countries Where the U.S. Has Supported Fascists, Drug Lords and Terrorists

Brown Bomber

via Nicholas J.S. Davies at Alternet. http://www.alternet.org/world/35-countries-where-us-has-supported-fascists-druglords-and-terrorists


Can anyone add to the list? Can any US imperialism apologists defend this? Is there anyone that they won't work with?

Manach

So this is a reliable source why (terms like extreme, neo-nazi, ugly reality in the first paragraph alone) and to paraphrase Orwell, fascists has just become one of the long list of words that the left spew at those they disagree with. The US has been a player on the world stage since the Monroe doctrine and this is hold certain elements of any government play the international game. Other elements of the US government have taken alternative routes and have actively sought a peaceful world through international co-operation - ranging from Woodrew Wilson to Harold Koh.

sin_city

Manach wrote: »

Other elements of the US government have taken alternative routes and have actively sought a peaceful world through international co-operation - ranging from Woodrew Wilson to Harold Koh.

I'd argue on Wilson. He'd signed the federal reserve act of which the Warburg family was involved in funding both sides of world war 1.

Lincoln had to print Greenbacks as a temporary measure during the civil war to pay the soldiers but there are not many US wars not financed by debt from the Federal Reserve.

When people involved in these types of operation such as the Warburgs are involved in funding both sides of wars it must be obvious that if the institutions were never signed in that there would be less wars.

comongethappy

Far be it from me to argue with such a poster with such a fantastic list of threads!

I think you should add to you list of anti-America baiting:

- Ireland (who assisted the IRA in their campaigns of terror in decades past).
- North Korea (American food fed millions that the NK authorities would rather let die of famine).
- China. (The purchasing of Chinese goods has proven an invaluable prop to its dictatorship).


I'd love to hear where the OP comes from so we can bask in that nations unblemished awesomeness!

BrendanHughes1

comongethappy wrote: »

Far be it from me to argue with such a poster with such a fantastic list of threads!

I think you should add to you list of anti-America baiting:

- Ireland (who assisted the IRA in their campaigns of national liberation in decades past).
- North Korea (American food fed millions that the NK authorities would rather let die of famine).
- China. (The purchasing of Chinese goods has proven an invaluable prop to its dictatorship).


I'd love to hear where the OP comes from so we can bask in that nations unblemished awesomeness!

They didn't back the IRA. The U.S government refused to recognize the Irish Republic when Dev went on his campaign there. A handful of Irish Americans helped fund the IRA, very different thing. It would be like saying Britain helped the IRA because a few English communists planted bombs for the IRA.

comongethappy

BrendanHughes1 wrote: »

They didn't back the IRA. The U.S government refused to recognize the Irish Republic when Dev went on his campaign there. A handful of Irish Americans helped fund the IRA, very different thing. It would be like saying Britain helped the IRA because a few English communists planted bombs for the IRA.

Fine, but not what I meant (in the context of the original post)

US supports an Irish state which has in the past supported the IRA.

"National liberation"???
Justifying failed terrorism is poor form.

BrendanHughes1

comongethappy wrote: »

Fine, but not what I meant (in the context of the original post)

US supports an Irish state which has in the past supported the IRA.

"National liberation"???
Justifying failed terrorism is poor form.

The Irish Republic 1919 - 1922 supported the IRA the US never recognized that state this state never supported the IRA.

Well technically all war is a form of terror. If you drop a bomb from from a plane or shoot people your terrorizing someone. The IRA's goal was national liberation they weren't doing what they doing just for a laugh.

feargale

A pity the damn link is so contaminated by spam

UNI4MER

Brown Bomber wrote: »

via Nicholas J.S. Davies at Alternet. http://www.alternet.org/world/35-countries-where-us-has-supported-fascists-druglords-and-terrorists


Can anyone add to the list? Can any US imperialism apologists defend this? Is there anyone that they won't work with?

Typical American hater anti Capitalist. Please tell me how many Americans lost their lives protecting Europe in WW1 and WW2? Oh I am sure we sacrificed our own for capitalistic reasons right? You Marxists are all the same where your belief that the "perfect government" will equal everyone. Niavety at its best.

InTheTrees

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Can any US imperialism apologists defend this?

ha ha ha!

And after that we can go after the Italians for the Imperialistic ambitions of the damn Romans. Grrr.

Overheal

I'm not silly enough to say we've never supported some sick people. The brass in charge justify it as the devil you know. Not every country wants what we want, clearly evidenced by some less than enthralling attempts to 'liberate' people or provide democracy. Sometimes deposing the wrong person meant inviting control from another foreign power like the USSR. the world is far less than an ideal place, cops can't prevent every crime and no country or international body can stop every warlord or atrocity. Sadly.

But sure some people like to demonize some other people for trying; nobody really blames you for being apathetic after all. There's Irish in just about any country but you don't see them picking a place and trying to do anything about it. Don't get me wrong i would also just leave well damn alone but apparently my vote doesn't matter much.

stevejazzx

UNI4MER wrote: »

Typical American hater anti Capitalist. Please tell me how many Americans lost their lives protecting Europe in WW1 and WW2? Oh I am sure we sacrificed our own for capitalistic reasons right? You Marxists are all the same where your belief that the "perfect government" will equal everyone. Niavety at its best.

What a ridiculous comment.
If the standard is how many people died protecting Europe in WW1 & WW2 surely you should be supporting the Russians? Naivety is thinking that US protected Europe in WW2.

stevejazzx

Manach wrote: »

So this is a reliable source why (terms like extreme, neo-nazi, ugly reality in the first paragraph alone) and to paraphrase Orwell, fascists has just become one of the long list of words that the left spew at those they disagree with. The US has been a player on the world stage since the Monroe doctrine and this is hold certain elements of any government play the international game. Other elements of the US government have taken alternative routes and have actively sought a peaceful world through international co-operation - ranging from Woodrew Wilson to Harold Koh.

I wasn't overly fond the OP's source but this claim of the US embracing peace is just nonsense. The US has subverted the democratic process for its own interests on a continual basis particularly after WW2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions

fran17

Brown Bomber wrote: »

via Nicholas J.S. Davies at Alternet. http://www.alternet.org/world/35-countries-where-us-has-supported-fascists-druglords-and-terrorists


Can anyone add to the list? Can any US imperialism apologists defend this? Is there anyone that they won't work with?

don't see apartheid South Africa on the list.usa was very much a supporter of that regime.bishop Desmond Tutu described there support as "immoral,evil and totally unChristian".Hell the cia even gift wrapped Nelson Mandela to the whites in 1962