Penn Jillette and Glenn Beck talk Atheism, Libertarianism, and Church State

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El_Duderino 09

I never would have thought Glen Beck would allow him so much time to articulate his ideas. Particularly the bit about public/private land and the Boy Scouts etc.

Cabaal

I got to say I agree with much of what Penn has said,

You can do stuff like not allow gay's or no provide contraception based on religious beliefs as long as you don't take government money.

if only this would be applied to Ireland everyone would know where they stood.

The vast majority of schools in this country would have to scrap the catholic ethos and all that goes with it (hate against gay teachers, expelling or not accepting pregnant girls etc),

Of course nobody is stopping a catholic ethos school from existing (or for that matter any other faith), it can, it just can't accept government money (tax payer won't be paying for the teachers etc).

The same should be applied to health care, a hospital can't have a catholic ethos that would prevent it from offering certain types of cancer treatment for example, if it accepts government money.

If a catholic ethos hospital wants to exist and it wants to ban all cancer care that conflicts with its views, then by all means they would again free to do so as long as they don't accept government money.

The hospital will effectively be private and it will have no affect in somebody with a medical card or anyone else that would normally have to go to a ER.