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Winter rules - placing

  • 25-03-2014 4:50pm
    #1
    HB2002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭


    Was just wondering if people knew the answer to this........

    When winter rules are in place and you mark your ball pick it up and clean it and then place it.... if it rolls of the nice clump of grass you just placed it on can you pick it up and place it again or do you have to play it as it lies.


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  • #2
    agusta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭agusta


    You can only place the ball once,The ball is in play when it has been placed.If the ball moves you have to play it as it lies


  • #3
    bustercherry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    It really depends on what was stipulated by the club, for example placing within 6 inches. If it rolled further than 6 inches, you should replace.


  • #4
    spacecoyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Is it alright to replace as long as you have the marker still down on the ground?


  • #5
    SnowDrifts
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    bustercherry wrote: »
    It really depends on what was stipulated by the club, for example placing within 6 inches. If it rolled further than 6 inches, you should replace.

    No - once the ball is placed initially within the 6 inches, then it is in play. Any subsequent movement is not included in the placing and therefore the ball must be played from it's new position.


  • #6
    SnowDrifts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    spacecoyote wrote: »
    Is it alright to replace as long as you have the marker still down on the ground?

    Definitely not.... it is in play regardless of the marker remaining there.


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  • #7
    bustercherry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    SnowDrifts wrote: »
    No - once the ball is placed initially within the 6 inches, then it is in play. Any subsequent movement is not included in the placing and therefore the ball must be played from it's new position.

    Actually the OP never clarified if it was at rest. I worked on the assumption it wasn't.


  • #8
    SnowDrifts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    bustercherry wrote: »
    Actually the OP never clarified if it was at rest. I worked on the assumption it wasn't.

    Yeah fair enough. I read the OP as it being placed and then subsequent to it being at rest, rolls off "the nice clump of grass"

    If he can't initially get the ball to place and be at rest, then you are correct, he can try replace it and if he still can't get it to place, he then must select the nearest spot where it can be at rest.


  • #9
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,512 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    bustercherry wrote: »
    Actually the OP never clarified if it was at rest. I worked on the assumption it wasn't.

    And what difference would that make?


  • #10
    SnowDrifts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    PARlance wrote: »
    And what difference would that make?

    If it is at rest.... it is in play and after any subsequent movement, the ball is played from it's new position. If he can't initially place the ball and get it to be at rest, then as bustercherry says... it must be replaced until it is at rest.

    Covered under 20-3(d) +4 http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Rule-20/#20-3
    d. Ball Fails to Come to Rest on Spot
    If a ball when placed fails to come to rest on the spot on which it was
    placed, there is no penalty and the ball must be replaced. If it still fails to
    come to rest on that spot:
    (i) except in a hazard, it must be placed at the nearest spot where it can be
    placed at rest that is not nearer the hole and not in a hazard;
    (ii) in a hazard, it must be placed in the hazard at the nearest spot where it
    can be placed at rest that is not nearer the hole.
    If a ball when placed comes to rest on the spot on which it is placed, and it
    subsequently moves, there is no penalty and the ball must be played as it lies,
    unless the provisions of any other Rule apply.


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