4.5hrs of work @ 8.65??!

clau22

Hi can someone please help! I went for an interview this evening for a job Mon-Wed 3.30-5pm, a grand total of 4.5 hours per week @ 8.65e!!! Will this affect my social welfare payments??

Phantasos

Depends on how it's spread out. Each 'day' you work, regardless of the hours involved, will cause a deduction from your social welfare payment.

If you work an hour a day for 5 days, you'd be entitled to nothing. If you work 5 hours in one day, you'll be deducted a bit of your social welfare payment for that one day's work.

clau22

It will be mon Tue Wed 3.30-5pm. May be called in the odd time to do a full day etc... Yeah I was thinking that, so for those 3 'days' I'd have to sign off. Is it even worth it?

Gokei

clau22 wrote: »

Is it even worth it?

Financially, probably not.
Mentally, defiantly.

Kristopherus

clau22 wrote: »

It will be mon Tue Wed 3.30-5pm. May be called in the odd time to do a full day etc... Yeah I was thinking that, so for those 3 'days' I'd have to sign off. Is it even worth it?

Well, you'll be getting €8.65 x 1.5 per day for 3 days So your weekly earnings will be €38.93. I may be wrong, but you may very well get your full welfare payment as well, with that low level of weekly wage.

Gokei

Gokei wrote: »

Financially, probably not.
Mentally, defiantly.

Mentally - Hell no! That's worthless stuff and I'd tell them (the employers) to cop on to themselves. Who hires someone for 90 minutes a day on minimum wage?! :mad:

Kristopherus wrote: »

Well, you'll be getting €8.65 x 1.5 per day for 3 days So your weekly earnings will be €38.93. I may be wrong, but you may very well get your full welfare payment as well, with that low level of weekly wage.

You should get the full rate, OP, as you're not really earning enough. However, every individual's circumstance with social welfare differs, so ring them and ask to be sure.

2Mad2BeMad

for 4.5 hours 3 days out of your week
you'd lose money every week that way
what ever job is that offered you that many hours for that little pay
tell them too cop on , been honest the fact their only offering so little hours on min wage, I wouldn't expect any more hours of them or a rise in pay if you do happen to do it for a number of months/years
waste of time

How would you even begin too talk about your experience working for them in an interview for another job?
" I worked 4.5 hours a week over the course of 3days, 90 minutes work a day" Doesnt sound like much too me and wouldn't be the least bit impressive

you could do so much better OP seriously

Victor

Phantasos wrote: »

If you work an hour a day for 5 days, you'd be entitled to nothing. If you work 5 hours in one day, you'll be deducted a bit of your social welfare payment for that one day's work.

There is actually some sort of scheme for people who work systematically short hours - the likes of cleaners who work in schools. You get assessed on income for the week, with a certain amount discounted. I suspect if you are getting €40 a week, you would get your full or near full social welfare payment.

Gokei

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Mentally - Hell no! That's worthless stuff and I'd tell them (the employers) to cop on to themselves. Who hires someone for 90 minutes a day on minimum wage?! :mad:

Settle down there, we're only chatting.
I'm going on my own experience of being on job seekers.. it was absolutely mind numbing.

Fully agree the employer is taking the piss here.

clau22

Rang Social and yes, I would be cut! As it's over 3 days! I'd have to bring in payslip and then be assessed.

Mrs OBumble

moving to state benefits (from Work and Jobs) for up to date benefit info

eastbono

If you are on jobseekers allowance and working 3 days and receiving €39 approx for total amount of work you will receive your full jsa as well as €39. On the €39 you will straight away have a €60 disregard as you get €20 disregard for every day you work so there will be zero to assess for means. If you work more than 3 days you will receive nothing from sw.

Victor

eastbono wrote: »

If you work more than 3 days you will receive nothing from sw.

Read my post.

Kristopherus

clau22 wrote: »

Rang Social and yes, I would be cut! As it's over 3 days! I'd have to bring in payslip and then be assessed.

You'll get a once-off assessment. That will establish what Eastbono has poisted above. You will then most likely go on the "X & O" scheme, where you will have to indicate what days you work each week. You will have to get your employer to stamp the form and then submit that form to your local welfare office each week.

eastbono

Victor wrote: »

Read my post.

I did. The person is only going to be working 3 days. In order to be deemed systematic short time they would have had to be fully employed and their days reduced for a specific period of time.

Tasden

You could try your CWO for a supplementary welfare allowance although its a long shot

eastbono

There is no need to as they will receive their full jobseekers allowance payment.

ldavis

it would effect your social welfare allowance. I was offered part time work. on one of the days (Tuseday), the hourly rate was 10 eur per hour, i worked 2.25 hours, I earned 22.25for that evenings work

I declared my job to the social welfare. I had to fill out the days when I worked. Everyday I worked, they deducted an entire days social welfare. For me, they deducted 40 euro for everyday I worked. Therefore I was 17.75 Euro worse off every Tuesday I worked.

I earned 22.25 from the job. They deducted an entire days social welfare.

And If you dont believe me. I have the man in social welfare recorded explaining how the aboue system works.

sligoface

Whenever i worked part time they deducted a full days dole no matter what hours I worked, if I got sent home early on a slow day I would be out money. That's part of the reason you see more part time jobs advertised than full time, they're no good to most people unless they are on a scheme that allows or requires them to work part time. And you have to hand in those x and o sheets every week, whereas when you are not employed at all the most you have to sign on is once a month, and I don't actually have to sign on until next year. I've come to the conclusion that unless you get a decent paying full time job you're better off doing nothing at all in this country. And the longer you do nothing, the more you get!

eastbono

If you are on jobseekers benefit then for every day you work a days benefit will be deducted. Jobseekers allowance is a means tested payment. From the info the OP provided re hrs worked and rate per hr then with disregards etc they would not have any means assessed against them. If a person on jsb or jsa works more than 3 days they get nothing.

clau22

You're 100% correct, the less you do the more you get!! It's a shame that when you do try and do a bit of work younget penalised!
I didn't a call back after the interview and am glad as I realised it wasn't worth it! I was only there to benefit another co-worker! I am going back to college in Sept to do a Masters. I'm hoping I'll get BTEA or grant! I wouldn't mind, when I worked full time in 09 before I started my degree that year I wasn't eligible for BTEA as I wasn't on social welfare. If I had been made redundant or had left the job a year before I'd have got it, I merely wanted to do the right thing, or so I thought and continue working right up until I started college. The whole thing is a joke, the system sucks!

eastbono

If you hold a degree you will not get BTEA for a Masters.

Postgraduate courses
Only postgraduate courses in Ireland are eligible for the BTEA scheme. You can get the Back to Education Allowance for a postgraduate course of study that leads to a Higher Diploma (H.Dip.) qualification in any discipline or a Graduate Diploma in Education (primary and secondary teaching).
Other types of postgraduate qualifications are not recognised for BTEA. The only exception to this is where a college has admitted a person without a diploma or primary degree to a Master’s course on the basis of relevant life experience - in these cases the person may be entitled to BTEA.
You will not get BTEA if you already have a postgraduate qualification.

clau22

When I said Masters, I should have said I'll be doing the Higher Diploma In Further Education