Beginner set of clubs

flany555

hi all im new to the world of golf .i have played 4 rounds of golf in the last 6 weeks best being a 104 in waterrock in cork and that was with an old set of shovels that i got a loan of.guys in halpennys in cork recomended a full set of wilson ge1200 not to pricey at 280.it looks perfect for wat i need but open to other ideas.im not looking for anything cazy as the guys i play with have plenty of gear they just will not sell any to me:)

Macker1

Go onto adverts.ie and you will pick up some nice 2nd hand clubs which would come in cheaper. I have got all my clubs off this site and you can pick up some great bargins. Find soem clubs at the right price and before choosing look for reviews online.

As your starting out some game improvement irons with plenty of forgiveness is the way to go.

I have a set of Nike Pro Cavity Irons up for sale and would be willing to do a good deal. I picked another set up just on Sat from Adverts as I wanted to upgrade

http://www.adverts.ie/golf/nike-pro-cavity-4-pw-for-sale/5098347

John Divney

I think there had been a few of similar threads with similar clubs, probably the very same ones.

The truth is as far as I'm concerned is you could get a whole set, a quality driver and woods, very good irons that will suit you as a beginner but can be used all the way as you get better, for less or equivalent price, and they are far better clubs than those.

Look on adverts.ie

Some good irons to start Mizuno mx range.

Driver from 5 years ago you can pick up for less than 50, Taylor made included.

Remember it's a buyers markers for second hand clubs, and while Wilson staff make great irons, these are plain old Wilson and a waste of your money

dan_ep82

Agree with the above. I actually started playing with the above wilson clubs and upgraded a few months later losing alot of the value in resale.

Wombatman

Much the same quality. €167 + €5 delivery. Low cost option in case you don't stick with it.

http://www.sportsdirect.com/dunlop-tour-tp13-steel-golf-set-876015?colcode=87601591

104 is actually quite good for a starter so you may want to go with adverts.ie or done deal and get a much better set (quality golf brands) that will be good for the first couple of years.

You could get good stuff on adverts.ie for:

Driver €50 (Taylormade Burner)
3 Wood €40
Hybrids €60 for two
Irons €135 Including PW and SW (Ping G5)
Putter €20

Seve OB

Agree, second hand clubs are the way to go. Get Cavity backs for forgivness, DO NOT get blades.

You could get a decent brand like Taylor Made, Titlest, Calaway, Mizuno etc second hand for the kind of money you want to spend that may have been originally been worth anything up to a grand or so.

The benefit will be that buying a set of beginner clubs, all be it grand, is that if you get anyway serious, you will want to upgrade them pretty soon. By buying a much better second hand set for the same kind of money, means you won't want/need to change them so soon.

When time comes to change, I would recommend getting fitted, but not until you know you are serious about the game.

Buying second hand, watch out for

Check the grips on them, make sure they are not worn down, but in fairness, most of the grips nowadays last for yonks, but if they do need re-gripping, you will be talking at least €10 per club.

Check the grooves also to make sure they are not worn right down. Pretty unllikely though.

Also check for club damage.

Fatswaldo

If you're from Cork, check out American Golf in Wilton. They often have second hand sets which have been traded in. They have a simulator there and you may be able to try them before you buy. Good luck with it!

And welcome to the world of golf. Prepared to be frustrated, bewildered, and delighted with yourself all in the space of an hour!

kagni

Would agree with all the above - 2nd hand is the way to go.

Just from adverts alone you could make up a decent set for under €200 that would last you a few years, and you could upgrade bit by bit when you want.
The below would make a decent set (you might need to add some postage costs and a bag)-

Driver - Ping G5
http://www.adverts.ie/4641963 - €35

5-wood - Callaway Steelhead Plus
http://www.adverts.ie/4533529 - €29

Hybrid - Nike SQ Machspeed 3H
http://www.adverts.ie/4863388 - €30

Irons - Wilson Di9
http://www.adverts.ie/4619246 - €70

Putter - Taylormade Rossa Putter
http://www.adverts.ie/4653577 - €25

Would leave a 3-wood until later as it is difficult to hit for a beginner.
Would also leave out any special wedges until you see what ones you might need, the standard PW and SW with the iron set should do for starters.

Seve OB

kagni wrote: »

Would agree with all the above - 2nd hand is the way to go.

Just from adverts alone you could make up a decent set for under €200 that would last you a few years, and you could upgrade bit by bit when you want.
The below would make a decent set (you might need to add some postage costs and a bag)-

Driver - Ping G5
http://www.adverts.ie/4641963 - €35

5-wood - Callaway Steelhead Plus
http://www.adverts.ie/4533529 - €29

Hybrid - Nike SQ Machspeed 3H
http://www.adverts.ie/4863388 - €30

Irons - Wilson Di9
http://www.adverts.ie/4619246 - €70

Putter - Taylormade Rossa Putter
http://www.adverts.ie/4653577 - €25

Would leave a 3-wood until later as it is difficult to hit for a beginner.
Would also leave out any special wedges until you see what ones you might need, the standard PW and SW with the iron set should do for starters.

I disagree with leaving out the 3 wood. If you are going to leave anything out it should be the Driver.... much harder to hit and get right than a 3 wood.

If it were me, I prefer to stick to one brand. I hate having a bastardised set of sticks in the bag. The exception being the the putter purely because the putter is such a unique club and you need to use what works for you.

Wombatman

stevieob wrote: »

I disagree with leaving out the 3 wood. If you are going to leave anything out it should be the Driver.... much harder to hit and get right than a 3 wood.

If it were me, I prefer to stick to one brand. I hate having a bastardised set of sticks in the bag. The exception being the the putter purely because the putter is such a unique club and you need to use what works for you.

No need to stick to the same brand. Sure doesn’t Mr. Callaway, Phil Mickelson, use a Taylormade Sldr Driver

Seve OB

Wombatman wrote: »

No need to stick to the same brand. Sure doesn’t Mr. Callaway, Phil Mickelson, use a Taylormade Sldr Driver

I know there is no need. Just a personal preference of mine. When it comes to "what's in the bag", aesthetics is everything

judosean2005

I have a set of good clubs for sale.
I used em for a year.
I bought em cheap so ill sell cheap.
Wilson linear driver
3wood
21 deg hybrid
Spalding Sr5 irons 5-S
Putter
Carry bag

All in great condition.
Irons very clean.
Wife at me to move em.
€50

kagni

stevieob wrote: »

I disagree with leaving out the 3 wood. If you are going to leave anything out it should be the Driver.... much harder to hit and get right than a 3 wood.

If it were me, I prefer to stick to one brand. I hate having a bastardised set of sticks in the bag. The exception being the the putter purely because the putter is such a unique club and you need to use what works for you.

I'm talking about hitting a 3-wood off the deck, it's one of the hardest shots to hit properly IMO and not something a beginner should be attempting.
Fair enough if someone wants to hit a 3-wood off the tee, but even then I think they would be better off with the larger head of a driver, just make sure it's at least 10.5*.

As for club brands, I couldn't care less what brand a club is as long as it works for me. Why limit yourself to one brand? It's not like any one is paying you to use their clubs.

Static M.e.

For a beginner or high handicapper 28, do you think it’s worth going to McGuirks (or something similar) to get fitted out for Irons before you buy them or realistically are you better off just saving the fee (€40) and buying a set from Adverts?

Seve OB

kagni wrote: »

I'm talking about hitting a 3-wood off the deck, it's one of the hardest shots to hit properly IMO and not something a beginner should be attempting.

Agree, but probably wouldn't consider it one of the hardest shots to hit. But yea, not something a beginner would want to be mucking around with.

kagni wrote: »

Fair enough if someone wants to hit a 3-wood off the tee, but even then I think they would be better off with the larger head of a driver, just make sure it's at least 10.5*.

Disagree, just because there is a larger face, doesn't make it easier to hit. you just have to look at the pro's. when it is vital to be playing a safe tee shot, you will see the like of Tiger & Rory hit 3 wood an awful lot.

I actually think a total beginner should stick to something like a 4 iron off the tee. Move onto the woods when they master the irons.

Static M.e. wrote: »

For a beginner or high handicapper 28, do you think it’s worth going to McGuirks (or something similar) to get fitted out for Irons before you buy them or realistically are you better off just saving the fee (€40) and buying a set from Adverts?

For a 28 handicapper / beginner, I wouldn't waster your €40. Get out and play a bit before you go getting clubs fit for yourself. Adverts all the way...

neckedit

For a 28 handicapper / beginner, I wouldn't waster your €40. Get out and play a bit before you go getting clubs fit for yourself. Adverts all the way...[/QUOTE]

I'd say go in to Mcguirks or Halpenny and ask the the lads can you demo a few models, your not really looking for a fit, more the chance to try out a few of the set to see which ones subtle differences suit you, and the lads are good enough to give you their advice.......now for the "they are only looking for a sale" brigade, contrary to belief these guys and gals are looking for your repeat buisness and in most cases will want to get you into the set that fits your purpose and your wallet. So you may feel comfortable coming back to them. if your buying there will be no charge and i would suggest that if you buy any thing in the store that day they probably won't charge you for the session.
They may even have some decent second hand that they may point you towards.

Wombatman

Static M.e. wrote: »

For a beginner or high handicapper 28, do you think it’s worth going to McGuirks (or something similar) to get fitted out for Irons before you buy them or realistically are you better off just saving the fee (€40) and buying a set from Adverts?

If you are inside or on .5 to -.5 on this chart you don't need custom fit clubs. If you are in the extremes I would conside it.

neckedit

Wombatman wrote: »

If you are inside or on .5 to -.5 on this chart you don't need custom fit clubs. If you are in the extremes I would conside it.

Wrist to floor measurements is a starting point and does not indicate anything with regards swing speed, Ball speed, tempo, weight of shafts needed or lie angle, Not to speak of type of club grip and grip size, Custom fitting is not just
for tall or small good players and it does not have to include an altering for all above, one change to the dynamic of a club can make a change.

Wombatman

neckedit wrote: »

Wrist to floor measurements is a starting point and does not indicate anything with regards swing speed, Ball speed, tempo, weight of shafts needed or lie angle, Not to speak of type of club grip and grip size, Custom fitting is not just
for tall or small good players and it does not have to include an altering for all above, one change to the dynamic of a club can make a change.

No, but the starter players swing will evolve dramatically over time.

Swing speed, ball speed, tempo, weight of shafts needed or lie angle are all variables that will change and settle as the players 'swing' evolves and improves. Would be ridiculous to fix clubs to the initial state of these variables. Take club lie for example. It is much easier for the player to adjust to the correct lie than have clubs specially made for this, something that any pro would address in an early lesson.

neckedit

Wombatman wrote: »

No, but the starter players swing will evolve dramatically over time.

Swing speed, ball speed, tempo, weight of shafts needed or lie angle are all variables that will change and settle as the players 'swing' evolves and improves. Would be ridiculous to fix clubs to the initial state of these variables. Take club lie for example. It is much easier for the player to adjust to the correct lie than have clubs specially made for this, something that any pro would address in an early lesson.

Fair point, But I was not talking of a beginer, I still feel however, it is practical to go and seek advice from a pro or a fitter, with regards to the lie angle, while the swing may settle and become more grooved in time getting the lie angle correct is vital as it has a direct correlation on spin axis and ball flight, as the swing can be adjusted so can the lie angle of a club, granted some easier than other but adjustable all the.

If you are starting to train for a marathon you don't just pick up any aul pair of Nike's or Brookes, you go and get your gait looked at and get the right composition for your style of running weight etc. why should golf be any different? We will always sell of the shelf because there are always people who don't see the benefits.......but there will always be those who don't finish the marathon too.

Tweaky

Flany555 have a look at the Driver, 3 Wood and Hybrid in my ad. They are very similar to the clubs you were looking at in the full Wilson yet. Great for starting out and not a huge investment required. Pick up a second hand set of irons and you will be sorted.

Wilson Profile VF Woods

flany555

John Divney wrote: »

I think there had been a few of similar threads with similar clubs, probably the very same ones.

The truth is as far as I'm concerned is you could get a whole set, a quality driver and woods, very good irons that will suit you as a beginner but can be used all the way as you get better, for less or equivalent price, and they are far better clubs than those.

Look on adverts.ie

Some good irons to start Mizuno mx range.

Driver from 5 years ago you can pick up for less than 50, Taylor made included.

Remember it's a buyers markers for second hand clubs, and while Wilson staff make great irons, these are plain old Wilson and a waste of your money

thanks for the info it makes a lot more sense
to buy second hand some quality gear out there for fraction of the price

flany555

Macker1 wrote: »

Go onto adverts.ie and you will pick up some nice 2nd hand clubs which would come in cheaper. I have got all my clubs off this site and you can pick up some great bargins. Find soem clubs at the right price and before choosing look for reviews online.

As your starting out some game improvement irons with plenty of forgiveness is the way to go.

I have a set of Nike Pro Cavity Irons up for sale and would be willing to do a good deal. I picked another set up just on Sat from Adverts as I wanted to upgrade

http://www.adverts.ie/golf/nike-pro-cavity-4-pw-for-sale/5098347

thanks for the offer and info but i have to say no for the time being as there is so much gear to chose from on the second hand market

flany555

judosean2005 wrote: »

I have a set of good clubs for sale.
I used em for a year.
I bought em cheap so ill sell cheap.
Wilson linear driver
3wood
21 deg hybrid
Spalding Sr5 irons 5-S
Putter
Carry bag

All in great condition.
Irons very clean.
Wife at me to move em.
€50

as above thanks for the offer

flany555

Fatswaldo wrote: »

If you're from Cork, check out American Golf in Wilton. They often have second hand sets which have been traded in. They have a simulator there and you may be able to try them before you buy. Good luck with it!

And welcome to the world of golf. Prepared to be frustrated, bewildered, and delighted with yourself all in the space of an hour!

thanks will have to take a trip out to wilton and c what they have instore and as for the emotions in an hour i have had them all in the space of about 15 min already

flany555

stevieob wrote: »

I disagree with leaving out the 3 wood. If you are going to leave anything out it should be the Driver.... much harder to hit and get right than a 3 wood.

If it were me, I prefer to stick to one brand. I hate having a bastardised set of sticks in the bag. The exception being the the putter purely because the putter is such a unique club and you need to use what works for you.

Wombatman wrote: »

No need to stick to the same brand. Sure doesn’t Mr. Callaway, Phil Mickelson, use a Taylormade Sldr Driver

stevieob wrote: »

I know there is no need. Just a personal preference of mine. When it comes to "what's in the bag", aesthetics is everything

at the moment the 3 wood and driver are used strictly from tee boxs cant imagine being able to hit the ball with these clubs for my second shot from the fairway:eek: as for same brand at the moment it dosent really matter to me as long as they feel right and they help me hit the ball in the right direction

flany555

Tweaky wrote: »

Flany555 have a look at the Driver, 3 Wood and Hybrid in my ad. They are very similar to the clubs you were looking at in the full Wilson yet. Great for starting out and not a huge investment required. Pick up a second hand set of irons and you will be sorted.

Wilson Profile VF Woods

thanks for the offer but have to say no for the time being as my head is fryed from all the options available form going down the second hand route

flany555

Wombatman wrote: »

If you are inside or on .5 to -.5 on this chart you don't need custom fit clubs. If you are in the extremes I would conside it.

5 7'' height wrist 37'' so inside the .5.but as for custom fitting i dont think i will b getting fitted anytime soon maybe in a few years :)thanks for the info lads

flany555

neckedit wrote: »

Fair point, But I was not talking of a beginer, I still feel however, it is practical to go and seek advice from a pro or a fitter, with regards to the lie angle, while the swing may settle and become more grooved in time getting the lie angle correct is vital as it has a direct correlation on spin axis and ball flight, as the swing can be adjusted so can the lie angle of a club, granted some easier than other but adjustable all the.

If you are starting to train for a marathon you don't just pick up any aul pair of Nike's or Brookes, you go and get your gait looked at and get the right composition for your style of running weight etc. why should golf be any different? We will always sell of the shelf because there are always people who don't see the benefits.......but there will always be those who don't finish the marathon too.

i dont think a pro or fitter could help me .i play right handed clubs and use my right hand on top like a hurling grip :eek: driver 200-230 yards 7 iron 100-120 yards .the only problem with it as far as i can tell is i do not get enough backswing .maybe its time to change grip and c what happens