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Second names

  • 24-03-2014 1:24am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭


    Following on from the confirmation names thread, I noticed that some people said they didn't have second names. We didn't give either of our daughters second names. Does anyone ever use them? Are they necessary?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    Samsgirl wrote: »
    Following on from the confirmation names thread, I noticed that some people said they didn't have second names. We didn't give either of our daughters second names. Does anyone ever use them? Are they necessary?

    Not required legally. But I used them on 4 occasions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    One place I worked in used to incorporate your middle initial into your email address. If you didn't have (or supply) one it was simply an "X", which is a far cooler initial than any of the other 25 letters, except Z perhaps.


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    The only time mine was ever used was on my college ID. I don't bother putting it on other things, like passports and stuff.
    I used dislike (hate is too strong a word) my middle name before but I've grown to like it since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I use it for my email address.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭petrolcan


    I use my middle name all the time. In fact, I didn't know what my first name was until I was an 18yo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    I've always been called by and used my second name. It's even on my passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    The only time mine was ever used was on my college ID. I don't bother putting it on other things, like passports and stuff.
    I used dislike (hate is too strong a word) my middle name before but I've grown to like it since.

    Jay is an interesting middle name after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Don't use it, haven't added it to any of my official documents (drivers licence, passport, etc). The reason being, I've seen people have issues abroad before when their signed name <firstname lastname> doesn't match up with what's in their passport <firstname middlename lastname> and spending ages trying to explain it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Can never remember using it on any official form yet every official letter I receive has my first and second name on it. I guess my parents did it at some stage, and it's embarrassing because they are two saints names which can't help but sound knackery.

    Managed to get the cool X in work though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭JanaMay


    I didn't give my children a middle name. It took us long enough to agree on a first name for them!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I used my second name to create a second identity.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    mine is my mothers surname in Irish, I ****ing hate it and cringe whenever it's mentioned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    mine is my mothers surname in Irish, I ****ing hate it and cringe whenever it's mentioned

    Your mother's surname is Sicín??! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    it's shortened from chicken****er


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    I think its a stupid Idea. Idiots are always putting their middles names on facebook. Maybe the only time it would come in any use would be if you had a sh*t first name like Clarence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    I have a pretty common name for a girl, so I use mine in work. Being Teyla Bridget helps me stand out from all the other Emmagans. And I use my full initials on all work related stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    I have like 3 different levels of formality that I use.

    Friends/Family = Nickname = Art Badger
    Work/Formal = First & Second Name = Artful Badger
    Official = Full Name = Artful _ Badger

    I dont use my full name often but I do use it. Its on my credit cards and passport and such things. Handy to have one to decrease the chance of a mix up involving you and someone with a similar name I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Popescu


    Americans love middle names and the initial when they are completely unnecessary. Who would confuse President John Kennedy with any other president if we did not use the "F"? On the other hand, the "W" in the last President George Bush does distinguish him from his father, George H. W. Bush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Popescu wrote: »
    Americans love middle names and the initial when they are completely unnecessary. Who would confuse President John Kennedy with any other president if we did not use the "F"? On the other hand, the "W" in the last President George Bush does distinguish him from his father, George H. W. Bush.

    Yeah, the Americans love adding that bit extra to their names but there have been a good few John Kennedys in American public life.

    John P. Kennedy (1795–1870), politician, administrator, and novelist
    John Alexander Kennedy (1803–1873), law-enforcement administrator
    John J. Kennedy (Republic of Texas politician) (1814–1880), soldier and law-enforcement officer
    John L. Kennedy (1854–1946), politician and jurist
    John J. Kennedy (New York State Treasurer) (c. 1857–1914), politician
    John Francis Kennedy (1905–1994), politician
    John Kennedy (Pennsylvania politician) member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, 1981–1988
    John Neely Kennedy (born 1951), Louisiana politician
    John Kennedy (Utah politician) (1847–?), member of the Utah state legislature


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    My brother uses his middle name regularly, mainly because he has the same first name as my father, and he still lives at home.

    A lot of older people use their middle name as their first name, which I always found a bit strange. Both of my parents go by their middle name, and have done since they were very young. Also my manager in work, and a few lads that I work with.

    A lad that I went to school with was Christened 'Padraig Joseph' but all his life went by the name Niall. :confused::confused:


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    It comes in handy to tell the difference between people with the same first name/surname in a directory. It happens a lot here. Particularly when someone's surname is Murphy.

    My son has a second name, but it sounds so much cooler to use his first and second together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Popescu


    Yeah, the Americans love adding that bit extra to their names but there have been a good few John Kennedys in American public life.

    John P. Kennedy (1795–1870), politician, administrator, and novelist
    John Alexander Kennedy (1803–1873), law-enforcement administrator
    John J. Kennedy (Republic of Texas politician) (1814–1880), soldier and law-enforcement officer
    John L. Kennedy (1854–1946), politician and jurist
    John J. Kennedy (New York State Treasurer) (c. 1857–1914), politician
    John Francis Kennedy (1905–1994), politician
    John Kennedy (Pennsylvania politician) member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, 1981–1988
    John Neely Kennedy (born 1951), Louisiana politician
    John Kennedy (Utah politician) (1847–?), member of the Utah state legislature
    I seriously doubt that the mention of "President Kennedy" could be taken by anyone to mean John Kennedy, the Louisiana politician.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    I have a middle name I don't like.

    My college insisted on using it and wouldn't remove it unless I changed my passport. Then in my last job I had to send HR a copy of my passport before I joined and they used it as part of my email.

    The last time I renewed my passport I dropped it and it's now hopefully gone for good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    My brother uses his middle name regularly, mainly because he has the same first name as my father, and he still lives at home.

    A lot of older people use their middle name as their first name, which I always found a bit strange. Both of my parents go by their middle name, and have done since they were very young. Also my manager in work, and a few lads that I work with.

    A lad that I went to school with was Christened 'Padraig Joseph' but all his life went by the name Niall. :confused::confused:
    My first name is the same as my fathers so i go by my second name.

    The problem that arises is when official documents come with just my/fathers first name and no second name or initial on. Whose letter is it? We often wait till each other is there before opening the letters with the same name on.

    Obviously there was a shortage of names around when i was christened:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    I like to use my middle name on official type documents, it just seems a bit more formal. So for revenue, driving licence, passport and bank it's my full name.

    My boyfriend's middle name is his father's name, so his signature always includes that initial, like "Michael P. Casey" as a nod of respect. I think it looks cool!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Have never had, or needed, a middle name.
    Although my bank did at one time decide to give me one. All correspondance and cards had a mysterious middle name "D".
    When I asked why it was there and to remove it I was told I needed to call in to the branch with ID to fill in a form :confused:
    I don't intend to give any children middle names; although wife may have different ideas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    I have two middle names, absolutely hate both of them. One of them is a Christmassy name, which sounds extra silly because I was born in late June, and the other one is just crap. I don't use either of them, on my passport it's just Firstname Lastname, and likewise they are nowhere to be seen on my college records.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    One place I worked in used to incorporate your middle initial into your email address. If you didn't have (or supply) one it was simply an "X", which is a far cooler initial than any of the other 25 letters, except Z perhaps.

    X is the best middle initial. In this part of the world can only mean one thing - Xavier.

    In my family, at least, the middle name is usually a nod to older (often dead) relatives. I've continued the tradition with my own kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Popescu wrote: »
    I seriously doubt that the mention of "President Kennedy" could be taken by anyone to mean John Kennedy, the Louisiana politician.
    I'm sure JFK started using the 'F' before he was President...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I am known formally as Right Rev. James Daniel Aloysius Kirkpatrick Mary-Kate St. Rufus Goose. And I'll fight any man who thinks that's a stupid name. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    I know a girl with four middle names, then took a fifth for her confirmation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Popescu


    I'm sure JFK started using the 'F' before he was President...
    As I say, Americans habitually use the middle initial even when there is no danger of confusion. Why Richard M. Nixon or Dwight D. Eisenhower? Might the public think the TV reporter actually meant Richard T. Nixon, the Baltimore pharmacist or Dwight S. Eisenhower, the barber in Santa Monica?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea


    always wanted a middle name :( so i gave my daughter one, kitty, because i like kittys mainly but the 'rents thought it was in memory of a granny i never met :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    My middle name is Noel because I was born at Christmas time, the brother was given a womans middle name because one of the nuns in the hospital thought it would be a good idea.

    A rare moment of madness on my parents part.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    A middle name is a necessity when you have a common name.
    At one point there were five Ishabod Oinks at my dentist's, so I had to register as Ishabod* Jeremiah Thelonious Oink.

    * the K is silent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    My middle name is on my passport but I never use it. My parents gave me and my sister the same middle name, how inventive :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Wife rang me the morning we were registering the birth of our child because we'd forgotten to think of a second name so I just looked around the office and chose the colleague's name i lilied the best.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is Lily a girl at least?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 blue onion


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    I used my second name to create a second identity.
    Black Pepper


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭cnoc


    I have been called by my second name from time immemorial and all official documentation uses this name. My problem is that I am called by and also spelled by 4 different versions of this name! Firstly, there is my name proper and am also called and spelled incorrectly on this name. Secondly, there is a shortened version of my name and the same inaccuracy applies....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭sunbeam


    I don't have one, my mother didn't see the point of them.

    I have a couple of cousins who go by their second names because at their christenings the priest insisted that their first name had to be a saint's one. When one of them got married the priest spent the entire ceremony addressing him by his first name which he never used.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    I use it because my name is quite common so i don't feel like a clone, the worst of it is my middle name is common too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭carolinespring


    I want to know what everyone middle name is. You all can't have crap middle names. I love my first name, my middle name is after my Mum & Gran and my 3rd (yes 3rd) id because my parents where sure I was going to be a boy and had picked Paul so used Paula.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Samsgirl


    LizT wrote: »
    My middle name is on my passport but I never use it. My parents gave me and my sister the same middle name, how inventive :p


    My parents did the same thing!!! Mary is both our middle name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭rainbowdrop


    Samsgirl wrote: »
    My parents did the same thing!!! Mary is both our middle name.

    I'd say a sizable proportion of females in this country (and a fair few males) have the middle name Mary. I do anyway....


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