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pulling trailed mower behind a jeep?

  • 19-03-2014 11:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭


    Anyone know the legalitys surrounding pulling a trailed mower behind a jeep on the road? Would save on transport costs if it were possible..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,522 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    That's how my mower was delivered. I guess 60 miles on a Landcruiser. Taarup 338. I would be surprised if it was legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,297 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    how wide and how heavy, would be the questions. bring a light board that works, and plan the route as carefully as you can. Pulled a John Deere 3765 harvester from Limerick to Cavan behind a fourtrak once. some frightened looking people in new cars around Glasson , as I Recall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    how wide and how heavy, would be the questions. bring a light bird that works, and plan the route as carefully as you can. Pulled a John Deere 3765 harvester from Limerick to Cavan behind a fourtrak once. some frightened looking people in new cars around Glasson , as I Recall.

    3m wide (transport width) and 1425kgs in weight... not exactly extortionate.. I think the legal weight is 3.5tons.. brakes are the problem I fear..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    have you a pto on the jeep?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Don't do it. I know sometimes everyone has to bend the rules a little but just think what would happen if some lad comes tearing around a corner and takes the side off it. He's not going to be expecting this thing sticking out the side of your jeep!! Where would you be are regards insurance? It would be a nightmare.

    Could you go for it in with the tractor? I think it's either that or get a licenced haulier to bring it for you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    Back in the day I often towed silage trailers and mowers etc behind an old Land Rover. Drum brakes all round.
    Wouldn't do it now though!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    And 'back in the day' me oul lad wore short pants and walked in his bear feet to national school!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    Muckit wrote: »
    And 'back in the day' me oul lad wore short pants and walked in his bear feet to national school!!!!!

    Yep Muckit agreed.
    But that's when farms of land were bought !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭agriman27


    I don't know what the haulage is going to cost you but it might be a better option for the odds of it if ya meet the wrong guard or have a scrape it could be more costly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    agriman27 wrote: »
    I don't know what the haulage is going to cost you but it might be a better option for the odds of it if ya meet the wrong guard or have a scrape it could be more costly

    €0.75 to €1 a KM is what I was quoted about two years ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭enricoh


    i know a scrap fella who until recently would have the hairiest looking loads on his truck, he was saying that the cops are pulling in anything at all to get a few fines n a few quid in at the minute.
    if u go for it at least get a lend of a beacon n stick it on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Another vote for getting it transported. Big can of worms if anything bad were to happen, or like said if you happen to meet the wrong garda (short, male, looking for advancement).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭bikes


    Saw a trooper pulling a slurry tanker last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    saw a hiace pulling a 2000 gallon tank on floatation tyres there a few weeks ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,033 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    saw a hiace pulling a 2000 gallon tank on floatation tyres there a few weeks ago

    That's just taking the piss !!
    :):):)

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭mayota


    saw a hiace pulling a 2000 gallon tank on floatation tyres there a few weeks ago

    A lad near here brought a 1300 tanker from charleville behind a patrol in December.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Round Bale


    saw a hiace pulling a 2000 gallon tank on floatation tyres there a few weeks ago

    Was it stolen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    Round Bale wrote: »
    Was it stolen?

    Who would steal a Hiace?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Round Bale


    sheebadog wrote: »
    Who would steal a Hiace?

    Wasn't talking about the Hiace -:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭rahin man


    Is it a swivel head mower? i.e does it go on the two back arms of the tractor?

    If so....i find the bailing cord off the big square bales brilliant..just tie it on to the back of the jeep and let it bounce off the spare wheel..

    Seriously though i got a jd1360 with a swivel head delivered from fermanagh to limerick last year for e350. as long as your prepared to wait for a part load on a low loader its worth every penny. watch done deal for lads looking for backloads


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    Round Bale wrote: »
    Wasn't talking about the Hiace -:)

    The flotation tyres were stolen?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Now the law says that a trailer wider than 2.9m needs abnormal load permits. Now it also states that the "load overhang" cannot be greater than a foot from the side of a vehicle. Now whether a mower counts as a load overhang is another question, one I cannot answer.

    This all assumes you've an EB licence. If you for within those dimensions, your grand I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Gman1987


    200 euro last year to get a mower brought from Offaly to Tralee last year. You would spend more on Diesel! I just put it up on handyhaulage.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Odelay


    bikes wrote: »
    Saw a trooper pulling a slurry tanker last week
    saw a hiace pulling a 2000 gallon tank on floatation tyres there a few weeks ago
    mayota wrote: »
    A lad near here brought a 1300 tanker from charleville behind a patrol in December.

    I saw a man shot in reno...... didn't make it legal:D Try a haulier, the right one will do it for less stress and euros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Odelay wrote: »
    I saw a man shot in reno...... didn't make it legal:D Try a haulier, the right one will do it for less stress and euros.

    It wasn't you that shot him because you wanted to see him die or something was it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,582 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Round Bale wrote: »
    Was it stolen?

    Was thinking the same thing, bit of scrap in that tanker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    A starting point for the OP is what the unbraked towing capacity of the jeep is , if you go over this and anything goes wrong you may not be insured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    g point for the OP is what the unbraked towing capacity of the jeep is , if you go over this and anything goes wrong you may not be insured.[/quote]
    Thanks for all the replies.. I think that it is safe to safe to say it is within legal limts from a width perspective, within legal weight limits, has working rear lights.

    Two issues;

    1. Insurance
    Will ring them to check

    2. Brakes
    What can I legally pull without trailer brakes?

    considering I will be driving to see it I think that if it is the real deal bringing it home with me is a no brainer assuming the two points above are legal..
    Lads here think it's mad but there is a cost saving when you considering viewing it as a sunk cost (unless you want to buy by word!) and you combine transport with this your only costs are the extra diesel having the weight of the mower behind you coming home!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Stick a beacon on yer jeep and a beacon on the mower. That's why Lucey Transport does with all his off loads for Liebherrs! :))


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭TheClubMan


    On the way to work one morning last summer, I came across a transit van towing a square baler on a main road! Surely it can't be legal but if it saves you a few bob...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    TheClubMan wrote: »
    On the way to work one morning last summer, I came across a transit van towing a square baler on a main road! Surely it can't be legal but if it saves you a few bob...

    I was a passenger with the father a couple of years ago when he decided to tow a square baler home behind the jeep . Never again is all I'll say !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    larthehar wrote: »
    g point for the OP is what the unbraked towing capacity of the jeep is , if you go over this and anything goes wrong you may not be insured.
    Thanks for all the replies.. I think that it is safe to safe to say it is within legal limts from a width perspective, within legal weight limits, has working rear lights.

    Two issues;

    1. Insurance
    Will ring them to check

    2. Brakes
    What can I legally pull without trailer brakes?

    considering I will be driving to see it I think that if it is the real deal bringing it home with me is a no brainer assuming the two points above are legal..
    Lads here think it's mad but there is a cost saving when you considering viewing it as a sunk cost (unless you want to buy by word!) and you combine transport with this your only costs are the extra diesel having the weight of the mower behind you coming home![/quote]

    Fairly certain, and i may be mistaken, but i think the limit for an unbraked trailer in Ireland is 750kg no matter what's pulling it...

    And i somehow doubt your insurance are likely to say go ahead to be honest :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    Yep 750kg is the unbraked legal limit.


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