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Learning to drive Trucks and Buses

  • 19-03-2014 10:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭


    Want to get into this and build up my driving license !

    age not a problem !

    just wondering what are the study materials on these for C, C1 and D license ?

    if i do C will i get C1 automatically ?

    is it a new or second license for learning on ?

    cheers !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    just noticed C doesn't cover artics ? to get that too ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    The C licence will cover you driving anything up to 32.000kgs and anything below that cat including the C1,The artic or CE as it is known as now is the one up from the C licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    It's an expensive road to go down just to have the licence, I looked into doing my truck licence when I had some money saved but it is insane how much it costs, especially when there is no guarantee of a job at the end
    I will do it in the future though.
    I reckon the newest theory test disc/book is your first move, I had an older one some are the questions are a bit tricky but it's not too bad,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    It sure is an expensive training to undertake with very little job prospects if any,Most jobs these day's are through agencies ala zero hour contracts.
    The transport industry is 24/7 365 over the years while working in the industry xmas day would be the only day off I had over that period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    I know the price can be vast to do all of these but i'd like to do it as a kind of hobby !

    im in with ISM in the morning for an introduction lesson to try out the coach a bit and get a good bit of info !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    I know the price can be vast to do all of these but i'd like to do it as a kind of hobby !

    im in with ISM in the morning for an introduction lesson to try out the coach a bit and get a good bit of info !

    Im in the same boat Kopparberg, doing the lorry licence as a hobby/interest in trucks, had a lesson, good so far, you would think they would just give the bus licence with the rigid and vice versa!!!
    Let us know how the coach goes for you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    If you're unemployed and have a full B, then FAS do a C training course, or at least they used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    If you're unemployed and have a full B, then FAS do a C training course, or at least they used to.

    cheers for that info but Im not unemployed.

    just on the way to ism for an introduction lesson on a coach bit of theory and some bus driving to see how it goes.

    dont have the learner permit so on their private grounds but hopefully a good feel to it !

    Will report back soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Moomat


    yourpics wrote: »
    Im in the same boat Kopparberg, doing the lorry licence as a hobby/interest in trucks, had a lesson, good so far, you would think they would just give the bus licence with the rigid and vice versa!!!
    Let us know how the coach goes for you!

    Driving a bus is a little bit different than driving a rigid. In the rigid you'll usually be sitting almost directly above the front wheel but in a bus the wheel could be a could be a good bit behind you. They can also be much longer than the average rigid but pretty manoverable due to the short wheelbase. In saying that if you can drive one you'll master the other in minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Moomat


    It sure is an expensive training to undertake with very little job prospects if any,Most jobs these day's are through agencies ala zero hour contracts.
    The transport industry is 24/7 365 over the years while working in the industry xmas day would be the only day off I had over that period.

    Plenty of work out there at the moment but most of it is never advertised. You need to be getting out there and start networking to find decent work. The best jobs in that industry come from recommendations, after all you're sending out lads with sometimes €100K's or more worth of equipment and goods and the amount of people who butcher them is unbelievable. The agencies will generally have the cr@p work with companies who have issues with staff retention.
    Something else to consider is adding other feathers to your cap, get as many tickets as you can, safe passes, haz chems, crane licenses, traffic management etc.. There's still decent money available in some of these areas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    yourpics wrote: »
    you would think they would just give the bus licence with the rigid and vice versa!!!
    Let us know how the coach goes for you!

    The bus and rigids are two different beasts to drive. I have driven almost every shape and size rigid on the road and found the coach a little bit of a challenge first time I drove one. They both drive the same but there is a lot of overhang you need to consider. That was a full size 56 seater, the smaller 30 seaters tend to be built on big van/ small rigid chassis and shouldn't be a problem for an experienced rigid driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    had about 40 mins driving the bus today. on big fecker indeed !

    20 mins around the bus and equipment + theory.

    thought it went well, reversing around the corner and so on.

    going to persue it further and hopefully get the license !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    Moomat wrote: »
    Plenty of work out there at the moment but most of it is never advertised. You need to be getting out there and start networking to find decent work. The best jobs in that industry come from recommendations, after all you're sending out lads with sometimes €100K's or more worth of equipment and goods and the amount of people who butcher them is unbelievable. The agencies will generally have the cr@p work with companies who have issues with staff retention.
    Something else to consider is adding other feathers to your cap, get as many tickets as you can, safe passes, haz chems, crane licenses, traffic management etc.. There's still decent money available in some of these areas.

    Plenty of work ah now you must be having a laugh unless you mean working for €80/100 a day regardless of the hours worked that day,As for agencies they are more or less in every company some even providing staff for well known companies.
    As for the Hazchem ala ADR that can be a closed shop as well and believe me, I know of plenty of people who spent the week doing the course without ever getting work in that field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    question time again lads,

    i have the first theory test booked for the bus. but it says after that because im under 24 i have to do another theory test of 100 questions and a cpc case study....

    1) whats going to be on the first theory test or what is the point of it if i have to do the other one anyway ?

    2) i have a good idea about the 100 questions

    3) what questions do they ask on the case study ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    bumpty bump ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    Theory Test
    Medical
    Provisional Licence/Learner Permit

    Lessons
    CPC Theories (if driving professionally or if under 24 years of age)
    Driving Test/Practical CPC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    yourpics wrote: »
    Theory Test
    Medical
    Provisional Licence/Learner Permit

    Lessons
    CPC Theories (if driving professionally or if under 24 years of age)
    Driving Test/Practical CPC

    I was under the impression I had to pass cpc first to get the learner permit ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    question time again lads,

    i have the first theory test booked for the bus. but it says after that because im under 24 i have to do another theory test of 100 questions and a cpc case study....

    1) whats going to be on the first theory test or what is the point of it if i have to do the other one anyway ?

    2) i have a good idea about the 100 questions

    3) what questions do they ask on the case study ?


    Your local library should have the Theory Test DVD for you to practice, it has all the questions. Doubt the case studies are the same since I did it but with multiple choice answers it wasn't too hard to work out the correct one.

    I was under the impression I had to pass cpc first to get the learner permit ?

    There's a CPC theory, C theory and D theory which you need to pass before applying for your permit.

    I did mine years ago passed C then transferred remaining time on permit to EC and then had to do theory for D, and CPC theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    As you stated you are under 24, maybe this is why you need to do CPC to get a Learner Permit, but Im not sure tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 mccannsyourman


    question time again lads,

    i have the first theory test booked for the bus. but it says after that because im under 24 i have to do another theory test of 100 questions and a cpc case study....

    1) whats going to be on the first theory test or what is the point of it if i have to do the other one anyway ?

    2) i have a good idea about the 100 questions

    3) what questions do they ask on the case study ?

    1) If you get the disc from prometric, that has the 1st theory test questions on it exactly as they come up in the exam.

    2) yeah, the list of possible questions for the 100 questions are on the rsa website.

    3) the case study is not much to worry about. again, it is multiple choice. there is a thread on here about cpc case studies with a few examples from different users about the different questions asked. I was a bit worried about case studies, but once i realised it was tick the box i knew it would be handy enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    1) If you get the disc from prometric, that has the 1st theory test questions on it exactly as they come up in the exam.

    2) yeah, the list of possible questions for the 100 questions are on the rsa website.

    3) the case study is not much to worry about. again, it is multiple choice. there is a thread on here about cpc case studies with a few examples from different users about the different questions asked. I was a bit worried about case studies, but once i realised it was tick the box i knew it would be handy enough.

    great. did the theory test and passed !

    cpc sounds a bit easier now. was just very vague that in the disc they don't ask the questions !

    cheers for that !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    has anyone done the CPC Case study theory test ?

    just trying to find out what they ask !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Quick question.
    I've a rigid truck learner permit run out since 2011. I did the theory test to get that.
    Can I just apply for my 2nd learner permit now?
    Also
    driving school appeared to tell me that I need to do cpc in order to be able to schedule a driving test?
    Can this be true when cpc is not required for all drivers? I don't intend to drive professionally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    mickdw wrote: »
    Quick question.
    I've a rigid truck learner permit run out since 2011. I did the theory test to get that.
    Can I just apply for my 2nd learner permit now?
    Also
    driving school appeared to tell me that I need to do cpc in order to be able to schedule a driving test?
    Can this be true when cpc is not required for all drivers? I don't intend to drive professionally.

    You don't need the CPC to do the driving test, i did mine last week, no cpc.
    Although I am now intending to do the cpc

    You won't need to retake the theory test to get a learner permit so long as your permit isn't expired 5 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Lads quick question.

    Im going in soon for the theory test on the case studies

    Will the 3 case studies be on the screen there or am I supposed to know them of by heart ?

    Very last minute silly question !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    yourpics wrote: »
    You don't need the CPC to do the driving test, i did mine last week, no cpc.
    Although I am now intending to do the cpc

    You won't need to retake the theory test to get a learner permit so long as your permit isn't expired 5 years
    Thanks.

    So I have the truck learner permit expired a couple of years. Can I now do the bus theory test and then get the my new learner permit with truck and bus on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭yourpics


    mickdw wrote: »
    Thanks.

    So I have the truck learner permit expired a couple of years. Can I now do the bus theory test and then get the my new learner permit with truck and bus on it.

    I think so yes, that would save you a few pound as the one medical and learner permit would do both, so one set of fees.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 vecca1


    can i drive a bus on a category c driving licence if the bus has been converted to 8 seater


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    vecca1 wrote: »
    can i drive a bus on a category c driving licence if the bus has been converted to 8 seater

    Nope. You'd need a D1 licence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 vecca1


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    Nope. You'd need a D1 licence

    What if bus has no seats?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    vecca1 wrote: »
    can i drive a bus on a category c driving licence if the bus has been converted to 8 seater

    I would be of the opinion that you can drive a bus on a C licence if it has a max of 9 seats (i.e. 8 + driver). For example, some buses / coaches have been converted into motorhomes or race car transporters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    vecca1 wrote: »
    What if bus has no seats?

    thats not a bus then


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