Section 29 Query

Krispie

My child due to leave after 1st class present co-ed school and go to a boys school. Nearest alternative school is not fit for purpose imo, enrolments down to 2 children by time he due to go. Other parents in same predicament.
Section 29 any use from experience to try and get son retained in existing school? Understand that BOM hands tied but need DOE to make/force/sanction change. Enrolment policy change required.
Rural setting so not as easy to just go to another school, miles apart with only one car for early morning drop offs.
Opinions welcome.

Moonbeam

WHy is he leaving his current school if you want him to stay there?

byhookorbycrook

I don't understand,do you want him to repeat in the same school where he is now?

Krispie

Didn't explain correctly, apologies.
Where we are, boys do Jnr/Snr and 1st in girls school and after that they must attend elsewhere up to 6th class. Very common down the sticks. School policy.
Hope that explains better?

byhookorbycrook

So where do you want him to be, in second?Sorry for qs but trying to follow your query.

Krispie

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

So where do you want him to be, in second?Sorry for qs but trying to follow your query.

As noted in OP I want him to be allowed to stay in his current school but as also noted, school policy says he must go elsewhere. I want him to continue his primary education in the current school.................

byhookorbycrook

Ah, I have you. A section 29 is most often a refusal to enroll appeal.You want him to continue on where he is.


"33. Appeals will be determined by the Section 29 Appeals Committee in the light of all the facts presented to it, including the views of any persons called by it to the hearing, and having due regard to:
• the established practices within the school for dealing with issues/grievances which are the subject matter of the appeal, including, where relevant and available, any statutory or non-statutory procedures, guidelines, regulations or other provisions in operation at any time,
• the educational interests of the student who is the subject of the appeal,
• the educational interests of all other students in the school,
• the effective operation and management of the school,
• any resource implications arising from the issues under appeal,
• where relevant, the policy of the patrons and the board of management in respect of the characteristic spirit/ethos of the school, and
• such other matters as the Section 29 Appeals Committee considers relevant. "

To be honest, I've never heard of what you want to try, but nothing ventured, nothing gained,I suppose. However the sections I have highlighted above would probably go against you.

Moonbeam

so you want him to be allowed to stay in an all girls school?

Krispie

Moonbeam wrote: »

so you want him to be allowed to stay in an all girls school?

"Other parents in same predicament" This is taken from the OP..

Not been smart but where is the misunderstanding with my OP?? I have read it back a few times and am at a loss to find where the confusion is, all relevant issues are in it

KateMonster

Can you imagine how your son would feel if he were the only boy in a girls school?

Big Bag of Chips

Krispie wrote: »

Not been smart but where is the misunderstanding with my OP??

Maybe it's the "shorthand" you use rather than full sentences. You know what you want to ask, that's why it makes sense to you but as readers it was difficult to figure out! [ETA: but perhaps English isn't your first language, so it can make written communication difficult]

Anyway... I don't know how you can ask for your son to be enrolled in a girls' school. Which is effectively what it is from 2nd class. What do you mean by "enrolments down to 2 children by time he due to go"?

What do you mean the follow up school isn't "fit for purpose"? Usually when kids move on from junior classes to a different school, the whole class move on together.

You can always contact the Dept and see what they have to say, but if it's a girls' school, then it's a girls' school. I'm sure changing it has been looked into and considered in the past, but for various reasons it remains a girls' school.

killbillvol2

Changing from an all-girls' school to a co-ed school from 1st class onwards is far more than an enrolment policy change for the school.

Any school I've seen with a similar structure had a boys' school nearby. Is that the case?

ShamoBuc

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Changing from an all-girls' school to a co-ed school from 1st class onwards is far more than an enrolment policy change for the school.

Any school I've seen with a similar structure had a boys' school nearby. Is that the case?

Surely this is the case. Where have all the boys gone in previous years? Where are they going this year? How do you know there is only 2 boys joining the 'not fit for purpose' school? Where are the 'other parents in same predicament' sending their boys? As the enrolment would be obviously more than 2? I'm trying to follow this, but am finding it a little confusing.

Is it that you don't like the other school ( not fit for purpose) but this is where all the other boys go anyway? If so fair enough, but if other parents are in the same boat, how is there only 2 for the same year as your boy? Are there only 3 boys in the class?? Does the other school only start from 2nd?

seavill

As others have said your OP is extremely confusing. Its not just one person couldnt get it you have had several people asking you to clarify things and even after you did it still doesn't fully make sense.

Rather than getting annoyed at the people that are taking their time to respond to you the best they can could you not rewrite in full detail what you want to say. If people have the full detail they can help you better.

LIke someone said you know the schools involved you know the kids, numbers, area, places to go, etc. etc. we don't so without the full detail it makes it hard to follow