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what size bale trailer

  • 17-03-2014 12:05pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭


    what size bale trailer would you need to fit 10 bales on the bottom row.
    is a back rail a necessity?
    any other recommendations?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    From memory I think it's 22 feet. You need something either end, rail or built up ramp. I would recommend to make the trailer 9' wide. Makes loading and unloading a lot easier. Gap in the middle for the trunk type bale handler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    22 foot should cover u and no need for back rail , the most important thing make sure its tandem axle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭micraX


    cute geoge wrote: »
    22 foot should cover u and no need for back rail , the most important thing make sure its tandem axle

    And that its plated with axle weights


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    what would a 28ft trailer take in the bottom row. saw a few nice ones. They would be great machines to widen gaps id say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭The Cuban


    Is their a legal limit to the width of th trailer as 9 foot seems very wide, just curious as I`m thinking of buying one myself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭grumpyfarmer


    f140 wrote: »
    what would a 28ft trailer take in the bottom row. saw a few nice ones. They would be great machines to widen gaps id say

    14 4x4s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    f140 wrote: »
    what would a 28ft trailer take in the bottom row. saw a few nice ones. They would be great machines to widen gaps id say

    12 modern 4*4's wouldn't have a hope of getting 14 on it.

    26ft here and the 6th bale hangs out over back, and the 31ft is tight enough to get 7 along it.

    Also think legal limit is technically 8ft 2or4in....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭bikes


    The Cuban wrote: »
    Is their a legal limit to the width of th trailer as 9 foot seems very wide, just curious as I`m thinking of buying one myself

    Artics are 8ft 2.5inch and you can legally have an overhang each side,think its about a foot overall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭poor farmer


    27 FT HERE brings 12 on the flat comfortable ,no bother getting in .Twin axle positioned correctly.
    8ft wide is plenty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭st1979


    massive difference in sizes of 4x4 bales. And its not always relaed to amount of grass or straw in the bale. The mchale balers make nice small bale with lots in it close to a real 4' bale. Class 250 i reckon is 4'6 bale. deutz and nh bales are all smallish.
    i have a 33' trailer and i can get 14 on bottom at a squeeze and some times i can get 16 on nicely depending on baler


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PN14


    24ft here and it takes 10 comfortably on the bottom with a good bit to spare. I'd say 22ft would do. 24ft can take 12 hay/stray bales with a bit of a squeeze. 8ft wide is plenty I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    cute geoge wrote: »
    22 foot should cover u and no need for back rail , the most important thing make sure its tandem axle

    Why make sure of it being s tandam axle george


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭willfarmerman


    cute geoge wrote: »
    22 foot should cover u and no need for back rail , the most important thing make sure its tandem axle

    22' by 8' single axle is a very handy useful trailer for any farmer. Wide tyres and correctly positioned axle. Racks made in a way you can take an extra row of hay or straw on top. I carry 14 bales of silage and 22 bales of straw on mine. Unless you are going a very long draw I think it's plenty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭135man


    8ft 2 legal limit I have a trailer here for small square bales built on double axle double transit wheels carries 8round bales it's 21ft by 8ft 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    No one is giving what the benefit of a tandem axle trailer is. i can get a single axle trailer for 4.500e a tandem is a grand extra for same lenght trailer from the same maker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    lab man wrote: »
    No one is giving what the benefit of a tandem axle trailer is. i can get a single axle trailer for 4.500e a tandem is a grand extra for same lenght trailer from the same maker

    Smoother ride on the road,

    less weight on the back of the tractor so less bouncing about,

    easier on the field as the load is shared over more axles(the small exception is that there will be a small amount of scuffing when turning, but to be honest its negligible, just dont turn real sharp in a wet feild loaded to the hilt.)

    more stable when you hit a pot hole or the likes as only one axle will drop into it(unless its a crater rather than pothole)

    smoother over speed ramps if you have to deal with them

    Because of the way the 2 axles will be positioned for balance it should actually leave it a little bit handier getting in around a tighter yard, downside to that being there can be a touch more tail swing.


    I'm saying all this from experience, 26ft single axle here for years and in 2010 we converted an artic into 30ft tandem, the 30ft will pretty much go anywere the 26 will and its the trailer you would go for every time as it's just a nicer pull with the tandems.
    As soon as money allows we want to get rid of 26 footer and it is being replaced with a 24ft tandem with high racks back and front, it'll carry the same load as the 26 at 2rows on top, and more if we put single 3rd row on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    thanks zr, with money being tight i was thinking of the single axle option


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭willfarmerman


    lab man wrote: »
    thanks zr, with money being tight i was thinking of the single axle option

    How much work have you got for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    will, i do about 1200 bales and this year a few fellas want me to do contract bales for them so that they can just graze all their land and i supply them with bales at a price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    lab man wrote: »
    will, i do about 1200 bales and this year a few fellas want me to do contract bales for them so that they can just graze all their land and i supply them with bales at a price

    How much per bale? and is there a premium price for better quality bales?

    Tis a good idea contract bales!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    hi elle, depends on the land rent but this year is different thank god the entitlements are gone now you can get land at the true value anddont have to give the entitlement money back to the said farmer by the fire laughing his ass off twas a joke imo but anyway 22/ 25 off the field


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    lab man wrote: »
    hi elle, depends on the land rent but this year is different thank god the entitlements are gone now you can get land at the true value anddont have to give the entitlement money back to the said farmer by the fire laughing his ass off twas a joke imo but anyway 22/ 25 off the field

    Thats not bad alright


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭willfarmerman


    lab man wrote: »
    will, i do about 1200 bales and this year a few fellas want me to do contract bales for them so that they can just graze all their land and i supply them with bales at a price
    I bought a single axle 23 foot with extra wide tyres 2 year ago. I'm very happy with it. But I'm only a small farmer! I between silage hay and straw I'd draw 600 bales a year and it does me perfectly. But most lads contracting and that round here would use 28 double axle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 northdub14


    the rsa is suppose to be bringing in new regulations for agricultural trailers in june, not sure but it could spell the end of road for cut down artic trailers...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    northdub14 wrote: »
    the rsa is suppose to be bringing in new regulations for agricultural trailers in june, not sure but it could spell the end of road for cut down artic trailers...

    How do you mean northdub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,542 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    northdub14 wrote: »
    the rsa is suppose to be bringing in new regulations for agricultural trailers in june, not sure but it could spell the end of road for cut down artic trailers...

    I think most of them regulations will be for new manufactured trailers from that date. Be hard to take every trailer off the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 northdub14


    lab man wrote: »
    How do you mean northdub

    newly manufactured trailers are all ce plated and axle weights stamped on them, whereas an cut down artic trailer isn't, some of the bale trailers advertised are ex artic, and very well converted just wont be plated, the traffic guards around here is gone to town on axle weights, so a single axle trailer could be over weight with 14 bales of silage if they were near the ton, its gone stupid altogether.......


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