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factorise trouble

  • 17-03-2014 9:52am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭


    I need to factorise 6x^2+5, I think I m allowed put in ox to factorise but cant go any further.

    6x^2+0x+5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    I need to factorise 6x^2+5, I think I m allowed put in ox to factorise but cant go any further.

    6x^2+0x+5

    Hi there. Unless you are talking about using complex numbers, it's can't be factorised over the real numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Hi there. Unless you are talking about using complex numbers, it's can't be factorised over the real numbers.


    ok its an integration problem I have: integrate (12/6x^2+5)dx

    I was using partial fractions method

    How do I use complex numbers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    ok its an integration problem I have: integrate (12/6x^2+5)dx

    I was using partial fractions method

    How do I use complex numbers?

    Try tan substitution. I'll give you more help if you need it. Give it a go yourself first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Try tan substitution. I'll give you more help if you need it. Give it a go yourself first.

    Thanks I give that ago and reply later, have to take the kids to the parade.

    thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Thanks I give that ago and reply later, have to take the kids to the parade.

    thanks again.

    Your welcome. Let us know how you get on with the problem.

    Enjoy the parade!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Your welcome. Let us know how you get on with the problem.

    Enjoy the parade!


    http://mathsfirst.massey.ac.nz/Calculus/integration/IntSubstitution/IntSub3.html

    Before I go is the first example what your talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    http://mathsfirst.massey.ac.nz/Calculus/integration/IntSubstitution/IntSub3.html

    Before I go is the first example what your talking about?

    That's it. Depending on the level you require, some lecturers are happy with people just using the identity,

    [latex] \int{\frac{1}{x^2+a^2}dx=\frac{1}{a}(\tan^{-1}\frac{x}{a})+c[/latex]

    With this in mind, you could rewrite your problem as:

    [latex]\int{\frac{12}{6x^2+5}dx=12\int{\frac{1}{6(x^2+\frac{5}{6})}}dx=2\int{\frac{1}{x^2+\frac{5}{6}}}dx=2\int{\frac{1}{x^2+(\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}})^2}}dx[/latex]

    Using the identity above, can you finish it from there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    That's it. Depending on the level you require, some lecturers are happy with people just using the identity,

    [latex] \int{\frac{1}{x^2+a^2}dx=\frac{1}{a}\tan^{-1}\frac{x}{a}[/latex]

    With this in mind, you could rewrite your poblem as:

    [latex]\int{\frac{12}{6x^2+5}dx=12\int{\frac{1}{6(x^2+\frac{5}{6})}}dx=2\int{\frac{1}{x^2+\frac{5}{6}}}dx=2\int{\frac{1}{x^2+(\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}})^2}}dx[/latex]

    Using the identity above, can you finish it from there?

    Cant write using latex, hopefully you ll be able to make out what im saying

    2 * 1/(square root5/6)^2 Tan-1 x/square root (5/6)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Cant write using latex, hopefully you ll be able to make out what im saying

    2 * 1/(square root5/6)^2 Tan-1 x/square root (5/6)?

    Almost! That square shouldn't be there. Also, it's usual to simplify your answer.

    What you have is:

    [latex]2\int\frac{1}{x^2+(\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}})^2}dx=2\frac{1}{\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}}}\tan^{-1}\frac{x}{\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}}}+c=2\frac{\sqrt{6}}{\sqrt{5}}}\tan^{-1}\frac{\sqrt{6}x}{\sqrt{5}}+c[/latex]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Almost! That square shouldn't be there. Also, it's usual to simplify your answer.

    What you have is:

    [latex]2\int\frac{1}{x^2+(\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}})^2}dx=2\frac{1}{\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}}}\tan^{-1}\frac{x}{\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{6}}}+c=2\frac{\sqrt{6}}{\sqrt{5}}}\tan^{-1}\frac{\sqrt{6}x}{\sqrt{5}}+c[/latex]

    that's my answer?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    that's my answer?

    Yes, that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Hedgecutter


    TheBody wrote: »
    Yes, that's it.

    Thanks appreciate your help, part (b) next to find the area between the line and a curve. might leave that till later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Thanks appreciate your help, part (b) next to find the area between the line and a curve. might leave that till later.

    Glad I could help.


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