An Taisce put 900 Regeneron jobs at risk

Doom

Hard to believe that they would object to the setup of this company, they're setting up in the old Dell Building. Taisce objection is on the basis of an increase in traffic, ffs it serviced by a motorway, main road, two different entrances.
When Dell was there, up to 2000 employees where using it, how could 900 employees have negative an effect on traffic, its a fcuking industrial estate!!!
If these jobs are lost, I hope An Taisce gets sued

http://www.limerickpost.ie/digital/2014/2014-03-15/html5/index.html?page=1&server=

Mod edit: Corrected name to an Taisce

Bicycle

Apparently An Taisce are a Voluntary Member organisation. In other words they are not public representatives, just people with specific interests.

I think the whole issue is a disgrace. Their website says they were founded in 1948 to protest our heritage.... this regeneron thing seems to be totally beyond their remit.

Sorry about not being able to do the quote thingy here below. But the more I read the more angry I get.

We need jobs here in Limerick. Protecting our heritage is a luxury if you can't put food on the table or buy schoolbooks for your kids.

From the An Taisce Advocacy page of their website:

""An Taisce is the only environmental charity with a formal role in the planning process in Ireland. Since the first comprehensive planning legislation in 1963, An Taisce has used its unique role as a prescribed body to act as a national independent watchdog for the Irish planning system and to champion proper planning, environmental protection and responsible development, in addition to its roles in education and heritage conservation

An Taisce is a voluntary membership-based organisation. By pursuing its public interest mandate, An Taisce works to protect Irish taxpayers from the long-term economic, social and environmental costs of bad planning – and to defend the public interest by promoting good environmental decision making. While its role in the planning system is conferred under legislation, An Taisce operates on a largely voluntarily basis and with very limited funding.

Certain planning applications which may have the potential to adversely impact on the environment and natural or built heritage are referred to An Taisce by councils. In addition to the planning applications referred directly by councils, An Taisce also endeavours to monitor planning applications often assisting local residents and community groups in this work

In addition to our role in the development management system, An Taisce also has a prescribed role in forward planning. Draft development plans and proposed variations to development plans prepared by councils are required to be referred to An Taisce for comment. An Taisce planning staff and volunteers endeavour to make as many submissions as possible on draft development plans and proposed variations.

An Taisce's key objectives in undertaking its statutory role in the planning system include:

Ensuring national, regional and local planning policy and guidelines are implemented by councils;
Reducing Ireland's greenhouse gas emissions in accordance with EU law;
Protecting town centres and advising against unserviced development and sprawl;
Promoting development served by public transport in accordance with national Smarter Travel policy;
Reducing unsustainable fossil fuel use in heating buildings (e.g. coal and peat) and in transport (e.g. private car dependency);
Ensuring the implementation of EU environmental law and protecting habitats and biodiversity, particularly Natura 2000 sites;
Protecting water quality and wetlands, and preventing inappropriate development on floodplains;
Conserving the quality of the Irish landscape, archaeological monuments and built heritage, particularly protected structures;
Promoting efficient taxpayer investment in public infrastructure and services, and
Promoting local self-reliance, public health and quality of life.
Much of the work carried out by An Taisce has not been easy or fashionable. Undertaken almost exclusively on voluntary basis, An Taisce’s independent role in the planning system is largely unseen, and where it is highlighted, often criticised by elected members of councils under pressure from vested interests – but vested interests that tend to put individual concerns ahead of our collective welfare as citizens and taxpayers.

There are many applications An Taisce supports. However, as a largely voluntary organisation with very limited resources, An Taisce must - out of necessity - focus on limited categories of proposals and, where appropriate, highlight poor practice by councils. The tremendously high success rate of An Taisce’s appeals to An Bord Pleanála (80%), and recent history as evidenced by the Mahon Tribunal, indicates that An Taisce’s position on planning matters has been entirely justified and its role in the planning system has yielded significant financial savings."

DBIreland

There is a discussion on this over in this thread from post 23 onwards... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056996958&page=2

Doom

I think this needs a thread of its own, anyone know if people can lobby this group?

Doom

I love this bit "Promoting local self-reliance" if anything Limerick needs this more than anything.
Rumours of up 200 jobs to go in Dell soon too....

celticcrash

An Taisce want to force car sharing. At least 300 jobs, but An Taisce want only 150 car park spaces.
Well thats me out as I have a family member with Cyctic fibrosis and I am not going to get cross infected by being stuffed into a car with others.
This whole thing is pathetic.
An Taisce could put 300 jobs in danger with their one objection.

Doom

"150 car park spaces" there is that and even more already, the building and infrastructure is already there, why the fcuk are they even getting their nose involved at all.

Limerick Dude

OP

Just to let you know that its An Taisce who have made a submission to An Bord Pleanala and not Teagasc, two VERY different organisations. You have mentioned Teagasc numerous times in your original post and thread title.

Doom

Limerick Dude wrote: »

OP

Just to let you know that its An Taisce who have made a submission to An Bord Pleanala and not Teagasc, two VERY different organisations. You have mentioned Teagasc numerous times in your original post and thread title.

Oh well...most people got what I was "spaekin" about :-)

billy the squid

How infuriating it must be An Taisce objecting to a plant that could create 900 jobs in a location that used to acomodate 2000 workers, when all they have to offer is ****ty jobbridge internships.

lockman

According to The Limerick Post, An Taisce have responded to reports that they were objecting to the Regeneron development in Raheen.

An Taisce not objecting to Regeneron

RESPONDING to the reports earlier this week in relation to the Regeneron development, An Taisce say that it is seeking an amendment to improve public transport access to a very welcome development.

For more, see The Limerick Post:
http://www.limerickpost.ie/2014/03/15/an-taisce-not-objecting-to-regeneron/

Doom

That's good, not too bad, hopefully no delays because of it.

Poxyshamrock

Maybe Bus Éireann can get the finger out so and provide a service to the industrial estate that is half decent.

lockman

All's well that ends well apparently. The Limerick Leader reports that An taisce have pulled their appeal over the Regeneron development in Raheen.

An Taisce pull appeal over Regeneron’s plans in Limerick

by Anne Sheridan

Published on the 28 March
2014

REGENERON’S €220 million plans for the former Dell plant are to proceed, after the heritage body An Taisce withdrew its appeal regarding the site from An Bord Pleanala this week.

For more, see the Leader:
http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/business/business-news/an-taisce-pull-appeal-over-regeneron-s-plans-in-limerick-1-5965253

bazz26

I wonder what or who persuaded them to change their minds?

zulutango

bazz26 wrote: »

I wonder what or who persuaded them to change their minds?

The vice president of Regeneron is fairly positive about An Tasice in the article ...

"Regeneron’s Dan Van Plew, senior vice president, and James Nix, An Taisce’s director of policy & operations, discussed their appeal at a meeting last week.

Mr Van Plew said that he is “delighted with the available talent in Limerick, the progress made thus far on the preliminary portion of the proposed development, and the great national and regional response we have had to our investment plan for the Limerick facility.”



“An Taisce plays an important role encouraging folks to think about their long-term impact on the environment, and we are very happy to have engaged with An Taisce on issues relating to mobility planning and on other aspects of the proposed development. Regeneron and An Taisce have much in common in terms of encouraging sustainable best practice,” he said."