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Whats with all the shootings??

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    What is happening around Dublin at the moment?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0315/602571-shooting-lucan/

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0315/602550-tallaght-shooting/

    Its sad to see turmoil in a city that is about to celebrate St Patricks Day this weekend.

    Its down to a lack of guns.

    We need more guns so that people with guns dont shoot people without guns.

    Cause there'll be people with guns there to shoot them first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    shur up or i'll bleedin shoot you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    In all truth I read the BBC and the Daily Mail every morning, and I would guess we have more gangland killings per year than London alone, never mind the whole of England has per year, despite the x11 population.

    English suppileris mus be some soft f'uckers to rip off :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    In all truth I read the BBC and the Daily Mail every morning, and I would guess we have more gangland killings per year than London alone, never mind the whole of England has per year, despite the x11 population.

    English suppileris mus be some soft f'uckers to rip off :pac:


    Right.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The Church is the mire, morals are gone to hell, scumbags run riot, nobody is going hell anymore or so they think.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    Right.......

    Ireland, per year since the early 90's, has between 15 to 24 gangland murders per year.

    Bar an exception or two, all in Dublin or Limerick.

    Care to respond? Or does "right...." answer her all :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    Duck season!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    The Church is the mire, morals are gone to hell, scumbags run riot, nobody is going hell anymore or so they think.

    Religion is probably responsible for more murders throughout history than anything else. Murders aren't increasing anyway, so there's your theory out the window.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Ireland, per year since the early 90's, has between 15 to 24 gangland murders per year.

    Bar an exception or two, all in Dublin or Limerick.

    Care to respond? Or does "right...." answer her all :pac:

    There was 54 murders in Ireland last year, 722 in the UK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Religion is probably responsible for more murders throughout history than anything else. Murders aren't increasing anyway, so there's your theory out the window.

    Surely murders have increased in the last generation.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Surely murders have increased in the last generation.

    Not really:
    www.tara.tcd.ie/bitstream/2262/2144/1/jssisiVolXXVII_135175.pdf

    http://www.cso.ie/Quicktables/GetQuickTables.aspx?FileName=cja01c1.asp&TableName=Homicide+Offences&StatisticalProduct=DB_CJ

    In per capita terms, murders are quite low in a historical context.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Religion is probably responsible for more murders throughout history than anything else. Murders aren't increasing anyway, so there's your theory out the window.[/QUOTE

    Yeah yeah bullsh1t, How many murders happened in Ireland in the 50s and 60s? One a year used to be the statistic, these days nearly every weekend theres some atrocity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Dublin certainly seems to be the muder capital of Ireland atm - aka gun city. From news reports the amount of illegal firearms around appears to be staggering yet AGS appear to be attempting to get rid of the legally held ones.....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Religion is probably responsible for more murders throughout history than anything else. Murders aren't increasing anyway, so there's your theory out the window.

    Yeah yeah bullsh1t, How many murders happened in Ireland in the 50s and 60s? One a year used to be the statistic, these days nearly every weekend theres some atrocity.
    Homicide Rate:

    1845-1854 24.0
    1895-1904 15.8
    1945-1954 3.4
    1995-2004 13.7

    50s was a low point for sure, but population was far lower. Religion existed in the time frames before it also when Ireland had its highest per capita levels of murder.

    http://books.google.ie/books?id=U-zAOTg22O4C&pg=PA80&lpg=PA79&ots=tt-Qk--_X6&focus=viewport&dq=violence+in+europe+ian+o%27donnell&output=html_text


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    The Guards are too busy cancelling pelanty points to do real crime stopping


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's understandable that since that upstanding hard working factory man was recently shot at that there would be some fallout, but a 60year old woman and her daughter?
    :confused:

    Dublin is a ****ing kip no matter where you live.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭championc


    In all truth I read the BBC and the Daily Mail every morning, and I would guess we have more gangland killings per year than London alone, never mind the whole of England has per year, despite the x11 population.

    English suppileris mus be some soft f'uckers to rip off :pac:

    I would reckon that every murder gets coverage in the media, with hightened coverage for gangland ones.

    Only a very small proportion of them in the uk get reported, because it's not such a rare thing. The media over there seem to only jump all over one if a minor is involved, or if the victim is a friend or relative of someone half famous


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    It's understandable that since that upstanding hard working factory man was recently shot at that there would be some fallout, but a 60year old woman and her daughter?
    :confused:

    Dublin is a ****ing kip no matter where you live.

    Nah its not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Yes it is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    gozunda wrote: »
    Dublin certainly seems to be the muder capital of Ireland atm - aka gun city. From news reports the amount of illegal firearms around appears to be staggering yet AGS appear to be attempting to get rid of the legally held ones.....

    Yeah, as legally held ones "could fall into the wrong hands". Here's the news, the "wrong hands" already have all the guns they want or need and if you showed them the average farmers 12-gauge, they'd have a laugh and show you their Glock. Crime in Ireland is now much more International, it's influenced by Irish lads who have travveled to the continent and seen the easy access to firearms there and brought that culture home. There's also a lot of foreign gangs operating that have always taken guns for granted....so you get more shootings.


    On another note though, I spoke to a stone cold foreign chap I know and he told me that on the continent, if they shot someone, they would have to do time as they would be caught, almost 95% certain.. he reckoned here, getting away with it is theoretically much easier as the Gards just don't have the resources and the language barrier is very hard for the Gardai to overcome. Which makes sense. The prevalence of lads flying in for the day then flying back out again that evening also makes the chances of getting arrested pretty slim..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭conorhal



    Except that's rubbish. It clearly states that from 1945-57 the average murder rate was 3. These days that represents a bad week.
    In 2012 the murder rate according wikipedia was 54, low by the standards of Afghanistan, but unacceptably high to any member of a victim's family I assure you.
    The stats presented in that article also only go up to 1993 wich is around the time that gangland violence really began to spiral out of control, there have been more murders in the first quater of this year then the whole of 2013. If you took the years '93 to present the murder rate on that graph would resemble mt. Everest.
    I'm baffled that the 'nothing to see here' brigade seem so determined to bury their head in the sand at what is clearly an alarming increase in violent crime in this country.

    .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    conorhal wrote: »
    In 2012 the murder rate according wikipedia was 54, low by the standards of Afghanistan.

    Why be sensationalist and compare the rate to Afghanistan? It's similar to the standard of any developed country.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Within the 20th percentile.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    live by the gun, die by the gun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    live by the gun, die by the gun

    I live by the river. I'm never going in again..


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    live by the gun, die by the gun

    that aul one and her Daughter were hardly living by the gun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Yes it is
    Malahide, Sandymount, Clontarf, Foxrock - real sh1t-holes all right.
    Stupid posts should automatically self delete.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Dublin is a ****ing kip no matter where you live.






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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Some of this thread is making my brain shrivel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    I think the reason things seem worse in Ireland is because of the amount of gun crime which is more headline grabbing than a beating or a knifing. The uk seems to have a lot less gun crime even though their murder rate is the same or higher. Here's one Scottish article from 2013 that says there was only one shooting in Scotland in 2012. We've had two this weekend, not to mention all the attempted murders with guns since the start of the year.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/433651/Scotland-still-top-of-British-murder-rates-despite-record-fall-in-violent-deaths


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Hate living in Dublin, scared to move outside the door for fear of being shot :(

    lol jk, I'd still take the risk of getting shot over living anywhere else in Ireland in a heartbeat. Thing's aren't as bad here as you might think.


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