Will you buy O'Grady's book and support an ex-doper

pprendeville

Interesting article on crankpunk.com posing this question. Never really thought about it in this light but why should an ex-doper who has already profited a lot from having juiced just the "once" reap more benefits? All the doping stuff was probably being left out until it came to light in the first place?

A very provoking piece on Horner in there as well. I wonder what does Mr. Nibali think of that hole situation. :rolleyes:

RobFowl

pprendeville wrote: »

Interesting article on crankpunk.com posing this question. Never really thought about it in this light but why should an ex-doper who has already profited a lot from having juiced just the "once" reap more benefits? All the doping stuff was probably being left out until it came to light in the first place?

A very provoking piece on Horner in there as well. I wonder what does Mr. Nibali think of that hole situation. :rolleyes:

I'll be giving his weasel words a miss

godtabh

pprendeville wrote: »

Interesting article on crankpunk.com posing this question. Never really thought about it in this light but why should an ex-doper who has already profited a lot from having juiced just the "once" reap more benefits? All the doping stuff was probably being left out until it came to light in the first place?

A very provoking piece on Horner in there as well. I wonder what does Mr. Nibali think of that hole situation. :rolleyes:

Any links?

I've read Millars book. A lot of cylcing books out there are written by ex dopers. If you exclude them all there wouldnt be much left.

Brian?

I won't be buying it because I doubt it'll be very interesting.

Plastik

I have bought other ex dopers books, but I simply have no interest in anything O'Grady has to say. Some of the other books broadcast themselves as tell all, O'Grady's book will probably be like Kellys and just give no more than a cursory nod to drug taking.

lennymc

Plastik wrote: »

I have bought other ex dopers books, but I simply have no interest in anything O'Grady has to say. Some of the other books broadcast themselves as tell all, O'Grady's book will probably be like Kellys and just give no more than a cursory nod to drug taking.

i must get that book back to you!! LOL

pprendeville

http://crankpunk.com/2014/02/28/dont-buy-ogradys-book/

There is also a link to a great article by a guy called Matt Dicanio (http://crankpunk.com/2014/02/21/horner-lewis-lampre-its-all-wrong/). Well worth a read. Would have to agree with Rodgers view that doping should become a criminal offence. It is akin to stealing people's money and if it happened in a day to day job one would face prosecution for it.

pprendeville

godtabh wrote: »

Any links?

I've read Millars book. A lot of cylcing books out there are written by ex dopers. If you exclude them all there wouldnt be much left.

All proceeds from ex-dopers books should go to charities like Rehab and Livestrong.

godtabh

pprendeville wrote: »

All proceeds from ex-dopers books should go to charities like Rehab and Livestrong.

Or me. Could do with the money

Inquitus

I won't buy it but I might well give it a read at some point.

Sinbad_NI

Story of his life... where he had to add in a extra chapter after the truth came out.
I've give it a miss thanks.

I know the likes of Hamilton have fought so hard in years gone by but at least now I believe what he says... with O'Grady... not so much.

pprendeville

It's an awful shame as the man seems like a gentleman in any interviews I've seen him in. Down to earth as well. I wonder what do his ex-teammates/competitors think of him and the Australian public in general.

doozerie

Whether any of us should buy the book is a good question, but it’s perhaps an overly simplistic one, I think. There is the usual much broader question - did O’Grady, and others, dope in isolation? After all, the riders were not the only ones to benefit from their successes on the road, the team staff benefitted, the sponsors benefitted, the race organisers benefitted, etc., etc.

So depending on how wide you want to cast the conspiracy net you could ask, for example, should anyone buy any products from sponsor names that are strongly associated with riders proven to have doped? The individual riders are guilty, obviously, and it certainly bothers me that some of them continue to profit despite their obvious guilt. It bothers me enough to make me think twice about buying a book, but unless I question where else my money goes when I buy some seemingly non-cycling related products as well as cycling related products, I’d feel that boycotting the book would be just lying to myself that I was taking some kind of stance against doping in the sport.

I’m not advocating a boycott of certain cycling sponsors, incidentally, I’m just wary that we risk focusing our anger on individual riders while others just as complicit continue to profit less blatantly. Even if O’Grady does’t deal with the doping issue in his book, there may be useful information in there to help identify others that were involved and that might serve a useful purpose. I’ll probably wait to see if his book turns up eventually in my local library though, rather than buying it