Running through fields, anyone do it?

buck65

Does anyone else run in the fields or the mountains regularly?

Enduro

buck65 wrote: »

Does anyone else run in the fields or the mountains regularly?

Loads of people do.

pconn062

Yup, it's called cross country running! 2-3 of my runs every week are done on the grass.

buck65

Can you tell me more, do you follow a trail or make it up?

Cabaal

Most people follow trails (its easier then trying to actually run through fields and hop over hedges etc),

There's thousands of Forrest trails and the likes around Ireland that you can use,

Enduro

It depends on what you're dealing with. If you're talking about farmland then personally I would want to get permission beforehand. For forests and mountains I've got no problems making up my own routes, but will usually try to stick to established trails, as its generally better for more consistant running training.

I've hunted out trails to train on when I'm abroad on Holidays as well. That's where being a competant navigator, and being able to read maps helps a lot.

topper75

If mountains are your thing - time to get with IMRA. Check out the website here.

buck65

Enduro wrote: »

It depends on what you're dealing with. If you're talking about farmland then personally I would want to get permission beforehand. For forests and mountains I've got no problems making up my own routes, but will usually try to stick to established trails, as its generally better for more consistant running training.

I've hunted out trails to train on when I'm abroad on Holidays as well. That's where being a competant navigator, and being able to read maps helps a lot.

I mostly run on farmland but have no idea who owns the fields I run through as i am relatively new to the area. I'm usually out before 7am so don't expect to meet farmers anyway. I wouldn't have thought that a farmer would be too bothered by someone running through their land?

PaulieC

buck65 wrote: »

I'm usually out before 7am so don't expect to meet farmers anyway.

coz farmers sleep on til noon most days ?

buck65 wrote: »

I wouldn't have thought that a farmer would be too bothered by someone running through their land?

You're trespassing on someone else's property. Whether they mind or not, you should at least have to courtesy to ask. You could be causing damage without realizing it.

pointer28

buck65 wrote: »

I mostly run on farmland but have no idea who owns the fields I run through as i am relatively new to the area. I'm usually out before 7am so don't expect to meet farmers anyway. I wouldn't have thought that a farmer would be too bothered by someone running through their land?

Ask on the Farming & Forestry forum and see what they think of that!

Farmland is private property and you have no right to roam, while you might think you're doing no harm, some day you'll come across a bull where you didn't expect one or a cow with a calf which can be every bit as dangerous. There are also bio-security issues.

I'm not suggesting that you'd ever intentionally do any harm but there is always the possibility that you might unintentionally do some, even without knowing it.

Plus, it's bad manners to just trespass. If you make the effort and ask permission there might well be no problem running across someone's fields but if they catch you without permission you're likely to just annoy them and lose any chance of ever getting permission.

robinph

Depending on how active people have been locally with their GPS traces you may find trails marked on OpenStreetMap that you'd not otherwise find on GoogleMaps. Doesn't imply any rights of way, but could give you an idea as to what trails may be out around you. Then if you do find any that are not marked on the map you can edit it and make it more accurate for the next person who might be interested.

buck65

PaulieC wrote: »

coz farmers sleep on til noon most days ?



You're trespassing on someone else's property. Whether they mind or not, you should at least have to courtesy to ask. You could be causing damage without realizing it.

Well I've never met a farmer yet this winter whilst out in the early runs! and I said fefore 7 am not noon.

Did you read where I said I don't know who owns the fields around me and considering I run for a few miles it would take alot of investigating.

kingchess

if I caught you running on my land without my permission I would tell you to flock off very quickly.what do think would happen if I tripped and broke my leg on your property-who would be liable??

pointer28

buck65 wrote: »

Did you read where I said I don't know who owns the fields around me and considering I run for a few miles it would take alot of investigating.

It's still you're responsibility!

I'm not a farmer but have worked for farmers and they really don't like that attitude. Most of them will probably say work away but they don't like being taken advantage of.

nerraw1111

Abandon thread, abandon thread.

Sure the courts are littered with cases of runners suing farmers for tripping over cows that have been tipped over from the night before.

buck65

kingchess wrote: »

if I caught you running on my land without my permission I would tell you to flock off very quickly.what do think would happen if I tripped and broke my leg on your property-who would be liable??

I would of course. My property is insured as is the farmers as is the street in the town. Does that mean we all stop shopping? would I stop someone coming into my house in case they get injured?!

It's a bit like the school playgrounds where we make our fat kids walk instead of run in case they break a leg.

Nanny state, **** it I'm off running in the fields.

buck65

nerraw1111 wrote: »

Abandon thread, abandon thread.

Sure the courts are littered with cases of runners suing farmers for tripping over cows that have been tipped over from the night before.

True. So true.

buck65

kingchess wrote: »

if I caught you running on my land without my permission I would tell you to flock off very quickly.what do think would happen if I tripped and broke my leg on your property-who would be liable??

Would you really though? or would you be a bit curious as a runner yourself (I presume) what I was upto and make freinds with me and maybe join me for a run?

We could take it from there and see how it goes (I'm also presuming you are a cute female)

PaulieC

buck65 wrote: »

Did you read where I said I don't know who owns the fields around me and considering I run for a few miles it would take alot of investigating.

Yes, I read it. Just because you can't be arsed to find out who owns the land doesn't give you permission to use the land. And it's not about nanny-stateism, it's about common courtesy and manners.

kingchess

buck65 wrote: »

Would you really though? or would you be a bit curious as a runner yourself (I presume) what I was upto and make freinds with me and maybe join me for a run?

We could take it from there and see how it goes (I'm also presuming you are a cute female)

you presume too much young man.if some one asked permision i would probably say ok after pointing out the dangers like rough ground where cattle had cut it up-not easy to see when it has grass grown over it-or a loose stone,it is very easy to break a leg or twist an ankle in a field. and I as the owner have a duty of care to people on my land.. if you are hurt on my land its my problem if you sue me. by the way-how would you feel if you looked out your window and saw me running around your garden-do you think you might have something to say to me or would it be "ahh shure you "re grand"