Balls

mike12

A lot of good info on all the current crop of balls.
http://golf-info-guide.com/golf-tips/equipment-choices/golf-ball-compression-chart-and-rank/

peepee

On balls, that check this out

ModernGolfBalls

Monte Scheinblum recommends the lady precept for men!!!!

Russman

peepee wrote: »

Monte Scheinblum recommends the lady precept for men!!!!

That's interesting, I was on a golf trip in Myrtle Beach a few years ago and the golf pro in one of the big shops recommended the exact same ball. He claimed most amateurs didn't compress a Pro V1 enough to get the benefit from it. I didn't check it out, but he said that the guy who won the Senior Tour money list that year used the lady Precept all season (can't remember who it was).

Milkers

Monte is the man

charlieIRL

I tried out Bridgestone xFIXx there in Esker Hills and liked them. Just felt better than what i was using.

scrubber72

peepee wrote: »

On balls, that check this out

ModernGolfBalls

Monte Scheinblum recommends the lady precept for men!!!!

I have one in my shag bag. Must use it today.......probably lose it on the first shot.

alxmorgan

charlieIRL wrote: »

I tried out Bridgestone xFIXx there in Esker Hills and liked them. Just felt better than what i was using.

Careful there...high spinners apparently...but then maybe that suits you game

http://0to300golf.blogspot.ie/2013/01/which-ball-to-choose.html

charlieIRL

alxmorgan wrote: »

Careful there...high spinners apparently...but then maybe that suits you game

http://0to300golf.blogspot.ie/2013/01/which-ball-to-choose.html

am off the buy millions of pentas - they'll get me nearly 30 yards more, screw the taylormade driver!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D

Ahh only joking, I was using some pro v1's that i had and while most of my shots were fine i felt they punished a mish1t very badly (something we've discussed a lot here before) I was given a sleeve of the bridgestones and decided to try one out in Esker and managed to hang on to it for the rest of my round. Done what i wanted.

Milkers

alxmorgan wrote: »

Careful there...high spinners apparently...but then maybe that suits you game

http://0to300golf.blogspot.ie/2013/01/which-ball-to-choose.html

That's exactly Monte's gripe with the modern ball, they are built for one thing - maximise driving distance with a tailwind. And sure enough that test follows that exact format. He reckons the higher spinning ball will actually travel further (yes seems counterintuitive to me too) with irons into the wind. Dimple pattern had something to do with it too, he lost me there.

shane 007

My last couple of rounds have been with the new Titleist NXT Tour S balls. Much softer feel to the normal NXT's. I had been using the Srixon AD333 but I have to say I'm preferring the NXT's. Lovely all round ball.

Telecaster58

Titleist have a great deal at the moment. 3 dozen ProV1's , with your name personalised on them for €100. Still the best ball in golf

ForeRight

Telecaster58 wrote: »

Titleist have a great deal at the moment. 3 dozen ProV1's , with your name personalised on them for €100. Still the best ball in golf

You'd wanna be shooting seriously low scores to pull off playing a ball with your name on it

burnhardlanger

peepee wrote: »

On balls, that check this out

ModernGolfBalls

Monte Scheinblum recommends the lady precept for men!!!!

Who sells these in Ireland? I'm intrigued.

bustercherry

ForeRight wrote: »

You'd wanna be shooting seriously low scores to pull off playing a ball with your name on it

Certainly you'd need a white driver to hit them too.

dan_ep82

I've played with loads of brands (most second hand balls) since starting.

On the few dry spells where bounce and roll are an actual possibility I found I like the Srixon AD333 and ProV1 around the green. Honestly though, if I was to pick a ball to buy new it would have to be the Velocity, the extra distance I get with it is worth it for that alone, and really the difference on the green is minimal.

I bought the Velocity because it was all the golf course had left and I left my golf balls at home, I didn't actually expect a difference from a ball but they do fly.

djivide_

burnhardlanger wrote: »

Who sells these in Ireland? I'm intrigued.

golfstoreeurope are doing 4 dozen for 136 euro

prov1 :
http://www.golfstoreeurope.com/en/Titleist-Pro-V1-Personalised-Golf-Balls-2014-4-Dozen/m-6145.aspx

prov1x :
http://www.golfstoreeurope.com/en/Titleist-Pro-V1-X-Personalised-Golf-Balls-2014-4-Dozen/m-6146.aspx

BoardsMember

I've always used the ProV1, have no idea which I should be using. Should I start with finding out by swing speed/spin etc? And then purchase on that basis? Sorry, I know its a stupid question, but there is so much info out there, some seems to contradict other info. I find that the drives & long shots are fine with the ProV, but sometimes I generate way to much spin with the irons, you can hear the ball fizzing off the club. Maybe that's normal

hades

BoardsMember wrote: »

I've always used the ProV1, have no idea which I should be using. Should I start with finding out by swing speed/spin etc? And then purchase on that basis? Sorry, I know its a stupid question, but there is so much info out there, some seems to contradict other info. I find that the drives & long shots are fine with the ProV, but sometimes I generate way to much spin with the irons, you can hear the ball fizzing off the club. Maybe that's normal

Personally speaking, i just tried a whole load of balls to see what suited my game.

I started with the Srixon Soft Feel and AD333, i liked tho but found them too hard around the greens. Then i went to Bridgestone e6, i liked those but i found i lost a bit of distance off the tee. Went to Titleist NXT's, which where great but they tore to pieces on me. Then off to Taylormade TP Blacks, and i've been very happy with the ball. Eventually when i lost those i went to the Pro V/Penta/Lethal combination. I find i get good distance and they're soft around the green. But i think the most noticeable thing i found about these balls for me is how they feel when i putt with them.

Of course, i don't buy new, in fact i have 2 dozen boxed pro v's at home. That i save for special competitions. Its lake balls all the way for me.

Telecaster58

BoardsMember wrote: »

I've always used the ProV1, have no idea which I should be using. Should I start with finding out by swing speed/spin etc? And then purchase on that basis? Sorry, I know its a stupid question, but there is so much info out there, some seems to contradict other info. I find that the drives & long shots are fine with the ProV, but sometimes I generate way to much spin with the irons, you can hear the ball fizzing off the club. Maybe that's normal

Unless you are playing off 10 or less you are wasting money playing with ProV1's

BoardsMember

Telecaster58 wrote: »

Unless you are playing off 10 or less you are wasting money playing with ProV1's

I'm off 9

And planning to go lower.

But that's my confusion, we seem to maybe have been duped into thinking that the ProV is the premium ball or the right ball for single handicap & better, your comment suggests the same, I think this way. Now I am not so sure!! And with the milled faces on the wedges, and a short first 2 holes in my course, my new ball is literally shredded by the third tee - anything a little more durable and cheaper would be great if I knew it was not a significant compromise in quality.

SEORG

Telecaster58 wrote: »

Unless you are playing off 10 or less you are wasting money playing with ProV1's

why is 10 the magic number?

Telecaster58

SEORG wrote: »

why is 10 the magic number?

There has to be a cut-off point somewhere. 10 represents the end of Junior Scratch and beginning of intermediate scratch, depending on the competition. Anyone higher than that does not possess the requisite ability to get the best out of a particular ball. A ball is a ball. If you are off, say, 15, just buy cheap golfballs.

hades

Telecaster58 wrote: »

There has to be a cut-off point somewhere. 10 represents the end of Junior Scratch and beginning of intermediate scratch, depending on the competition. Anyone higher than that does not possess the requisite ability to get the best out of a particular ball. A ball is a ball. If you are off, say, 15, just buy cheap golfballs.

Going on that logic, anyone over 3 shouldn't play with blades and anyone over 10 must only play with game improver irons.

ForeRight

Telecaster58 wrote: »

There has to be a cut-off point somewhere. 10 represents the end of Junior Scratch and beginning of intermediate scratch, depending on the competition. Anyone higher than that does not possess the requisite ability to get the best out of a particular ball. A ball is a ball. If you are off, say, 15, just buy cheap golfballs.

Maybe their downfall is poor driving or terrible putting and nothing to do with ball striking or compressing the ball.

They may hit greens like a low handicapper but are in trouble of the tee a lot so can't get down to singles.

That seems like flawed logic to me.

Telecaster58

hades wrote: »

Going on that logic, anyone over 3 shouldn't play with blades and anyone over 10 must only play with game improver irons.

I did not mention clubs and am slightly doubtful on the efficacy and effectiveness of clubs. I remember Phil Mickleson remarking that Tiger Woods had to be the best golfer in the world because no-one else could play with rubbish clubs made by Nike! That said, there is a certain amount of truth in your observation. It takes a good golfer to play with blades. Cavity-backs are more forgiving.

Dr_Colossus

Telecaster58 wrote: »

It takes a good golfer to play with blades. Cavity-backs are more forgiving.

I play with blades and am a terrible golfer but I much prefer the look and feel from them. Then again I do like to make things difficult for myself which is partly rewarded by that smooth feeling when I hit the odd good shot.

With regards to golf balls I generally don't notice much difference from the tee with the premium balls vs middle of the range stuff like the NXT, AD333 etc but the softer feel chipping and putting is noticeable and nice.

Telecaster58

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

I play with blades and am a terrible golfer but I much prefer the look and feel from them. Then again I do like to make things difficult for myself which is partly rewarded by that smooth feeling when I hit the odd good shot.

With regards to golf balls I generally don't notice much difference from the tee with the premium balls vs middle of the range stuff like the NXT, AD333 etc but the softer feel chipping and putting is noticeable and nice.

That was more or less my point. Most higher handicap golfers are poor round the greens, that's why they are high handicappers, and as such good balls are a waste of money. Most of them just want length of the tee.

BoardsMember

And there was me logging back on to see how much more info there was regarding decent golf balls that are viable alternatives to ProV'. Imagine that, a thread on boards getting sidetracked

DuckSlice

I just bought some wilson fgtour urethane balls. Cosmetically blemished, boxed from Wilson. 45 for 24. Decent value, next to no cosmetic damage on them, will be trying em them out this weekend!

blackwhite

Telecaster58 wrote: »

That was more or less my point. Most higher handicap golfers are poor round the greens, that's why they are high handicappers, and as such good balls are a waste of money. Most of them just want length of the tee.

Your logic seems a bit flawed.

If most high handicappers are poor around the greens, then surely a ball that performs better around the greens is a good thing i.e. helping them where they need help most?

BigChap1759

etxp wrote: »

I just bought some wilson fgtour urethane balls. Cosmetically blemished, boxed from Wilson. 45 for 24. Decent value, next to no cosmetic damage on them, will be trying em them out this weekend!

I still have 5 doz of these from last year - have to be the best value available over the last few years. A great low compression ball with a soft cover - just slightly below a ProV1 in performance and a third of the price.

Only downside I have in the summer is loosing distance with the driver vs a harder ball like ProV1x

DuckSlice

BigChap1759 wrote: »

I still have 5 doz of these from last year - have to be the best value available over the last few years. A great low compression ball with a soft cover - just slightly below a ProV1 in performance and a third of the price.

Only downside I have in the summer is loosing distance with the driver vs a harder ball like ProV1x

Probably lose a bit of distance alright, but I got these mainly for a second ball in the bag, It got to the stage where I had no balls in my bag except for my good balls which I use for comps and the like. But from what I hear they are very good.

PARlance

Slightly OT
Found a ProV out in the European today, it had made the journey over from Bethpage Black (stamp on it obv )
It'll probably be found in the water to the right of the Par 3 2nd in Castlebar come Sunday eve.

PARlance

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sheroman01

Do good branded balls really make any difference? If so, how much difference and why?

Rikand

sheroman01 wrote: »

Do good branded balls really make any difference? If so, how much difference and why?

It really all depends how well you strike the ball. You said in another thread, you are off 25, so there's no real need for you to be going out and buying Pro V1's. You'll want something that goes straight, won't be affected by spin that's imparted by your golf swing too much and probably gets a nice bit of distance.

Pro V's tend to be affected by spin a lot, so a 5 yard slice with a harder ball, could become a 50 yard slice with a Pro V.

I play off 5 and i only use Balls like the Pro V in the summer time, when greens are rock hard and you need that bit of extra grip on a chip, but the rest of the year, I'll use any old hard ball I can get my hands on.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but a top flite or an ultra, something thats cheap and solid will do you the business nicely!

sheroman01

Rikand wrote: »

It really all depends how well you strike the ball. You said in another thread, you are off 25, so there's no real need for you to be going out and buying Pro V1's. You'll want something that goes straight, won't be affected by spin that's imparted by your golf swing too much and probably gets a nice bit of distance.

Pro V's tend to be affected by spin a lot, so a 5 yard slice with a harder ball, could become a 50 yard slice with a Pro V.

I play off 5 and i only use Balls like the Pro V in the summer time, when greens are rock hard and you need that bit of extra grip on a chip, but the rest of the year, I'll use any old hard ball I can get my hands on.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but a top flite or an ultra, something thats cheap and solid will do you the business nicely!

Thanks a mill for the clear, in depth answer, that makes sense alright ! Most people's responses, including mine, were normally "they're expensive, so they must be good!" but I was always sceptical. That's interesting that you'll play with any ball in the winter even despite playing off 5.

Yeah exactly, i'm not too fussed at the moment what I play with, I've plenty of top flites and ultras to keep me going for a while !

Milkers

Rikand wrote: »

Pro V's tend to be affected by spin a lot, so a 5 yard slice with a harder ball, could become a 50 yard slice with a Pro V.

The concept is true but the example is a gross exaggeration obviously.