What is the biggest pub in Dublin ?

Jumboman

Is cafe en seine the biggest pub in Dublin or is there somewhere bigger ?

liffeylite

I would say café en seine is a bar rather than a pub

but if youre including both types of establishments...what about the hole in the wall?

Jumboman

liffeylite wrote: »

I would say café en seine is a bar rather than a pub

but if youre including both types of establishments...what about the hole in the wall?

Never been there is it big ?

robertxxx

No not really

Jumboman

Fitzsimons in temple bar would probably be one of the biggest also.

tricky D

How do you want to define it?

Biggest area/most potential drinkers at a certain time: Croke Park or maybe Leopardstown Race Course for area.
Most pints/units per day: Coppers (nightclub)/Fitzsimmons or some other Temple Bar non-nightclub pub??
Biggest area (enclosed): Fitzsimmons ??

Jumboman

tricky D wrote: »

How do you want to define it?

Biggest area/most potential drinkers at a certain time: Croke Park or maybe Leopardstown Race Course for area.
Most pints/units per day: Coppers (nightclub)/Fitzsimmons or some other Temple Bar non-nightclub pub??
Biggest area (enclosed): Fitzsimmons ??

Biggest area/space.

listermint

the dawson lounge

Holsten

I always thought it was cafe en seine alright.

There are some new pubs around so they might take it now.

tricky D

The Submarine seems bigger than Cafe en Seine.

stanley1

the sub is pretty big, pity it's closed.

Tim Riggins

cafe en seine imo

liffeylite

howl at the moon is probably bigger in terms of floor space I would think.
café en seine is only massive on the ground floor.
fitzsimmons would be up there, when you include the roof top terrace also it must be 5 floors.

the old Zanzibar was a monster of a place. Anyone know whats happening with that building nowadays?

neris

liffeylite wrote: »

the old Zanzibar was a monster of a place. Anyone know whats happening with that building nowadays?

did mick wallace not buy it as part of his italian quater which is now in recdeivership?

Jumboman

liffeylite wrote: »

howl at the moon is probably bigger in terms of floor space I would think.
café en seine is only massive on the ground floor.
fitzsimmons would be up there, when you include the roof top terrace also it must be 5 floors.

the old Zanzibar was a monster of a place. Anyone know whats happening with that building nowadays?

I loved Zanzibar it had a great atmosphere. Walking in there was like steping into another country!

Muahahaha

tricky D wrote: »

How do you want to define it?

Biggest area/most potential drinkers at a certain time: Croke Park or maybe Leopardstown Race Course for area.
Most pints/units per day: Coppers (nightclub)/Fitzsimmons or some other Temple Bar non-nightclub pub??
Biggest area (enclosed): Fitzsimmons ??

I remember about 10 years back asking a Guinness sales rep what pub in Dublin sold the most Guinness. He said it was the Towers in Ballymun, they did 300+ kegs of the stuff every week. I was in the area about 4 years back on a random weekday at around 3pm so took a stroll in. There was about 100 people on the premises in the early afternoon all knocking back pints though some were on cans of Tennants !

The likes of Coppers is busy for 3 or 4 hours a night whereas the likes of somewhere like the Towers can be busy from when they open at 10.30am.

In terms of size I'd say Cafe en Seine, though I've never been in the Submarine. The Old Mill out in Tallaght is also pretty big but I'm doubting it has the sheer size or scale of Cafe en Seine.

Jumboman

Muahahaha wrote: »

I remember about 10 years back asking a Guinness sales rep what pub in Dublin sold the most Guinness. He said it was the Towers in Ballymun, they did 300+ kegs of the stuff every week. I was in the area about 4 years back on a random weekday at around 3pm so took a stroll in. There was about 100 people on the premises in the early afternoon all knocking back pints though some were on cans of Tennants !

The likes of Coppers is busy for 3 or 4 hours a night whereas the likes of somewhere like the Towers can be busy from when they open at 10.30am.

In terms of size I'd say Cafe en Seine, though I've never been in the Submarine. The Old Mill out in Tallaght is also pretty big but I'm doubting it has the sheer size or scale of Cafe en Seine.

Do they let you drink cans in the pub ?

endacl

O'Connell Street. Next Monday.

endacl

Muahahaha wrote: »

I remember about 10 years back asking a Guinness sales rep what pub in Dublin sold the most Guinness. He said it was the Towers in Ballymun, they did 300+ kegs of the stuff every week. I was in the area about 4 years back on a random weekday at around 3pm so took a stroll in. There was about 100 people on the premises in the early afternoon all knocking back pints though some were on cans of Tennants ! .

And it still went into receivership?!?

http://www.independent.ie/business/commercial-property/receiver-puts-the-towers-pub-up-for-sale-with-12m-price-tag-29970866.html

neris

endacl wrote: »

And it still went into receivership?!?

http://www.independent.ie/business/commercial-property/receiver-puts-the-towers-pub-up-for-sale-with-12m-price-tag-29970866.html

only 1.2 million for the towers. long gone are the days of a small boozer going for a few million.

Muahahaha

Jumboman wrote: »

Do they let you drink cans in the pub ?

Yep, back then at least though I'd say by now they have Tennants on tap and no longer allow it. But I've seen some pubs still sell cans for consumption on the premises, typically of beers they don't have on tap, like McArdles or Harp.

Ciaran_B

A couple of places in town used to do cans of special brew.

beertons

Muahahaha wrote: »

I remember about 10 years back asking a Guinness sales rep what pub in Dublin sold the most Guinness. He said it was the Towers in Ballymun, they did 300+ kegs of the stuff every week. I was in the area about 4 years back on a random weekday at around 3pm so took a stroll in. There was about 100 people on the premises in the early afternoon all knocking back pints though some were on cans of Tennants !

The likes of Coppers is busy for 3 or 4 hours a night whereas the likes of somewhere like the Towers can be busy from when they open at 10.30am.

In terms of size I'd say Cafe en Seine, though I've never been in the Submarine. The Old Mill out in Tallaght is also pretty big but I'm doubting it has the sheer size or scale of Cafe en Seine.

When Guinness did deliveries to the towers, they left the whole trailer, and hooked up the one they left previous. The staff would have it filled with all the empties. Twice a week they had deliveries. Longer trailers back then aswell.

ThisRegard

liffeylite wrote: »

but if youre including both types of establishments...what about the hole in the wall?

The bar is long, but the premises is not very big as it's narrow.

Strumms

Jumboman wrote: »

I loved Zanzibar it had a great atmosphere. Walking in there was like steping into another country!

I'm guessing you don't travel much.

Jumboman

Muahahaha wrote: »

Yep, back then at least though I'd say by now they have Tennants on tap and no longer allow it. But I've seen some pubs still sell cans for consumption on the premises, typically of beers they don't have on tap, like McArdles or Harp.

Thats weird. What would of stopped people bringing in their own cans and saying they bought them in the pub ?

Bandana boy

Jumboman wrote: »

Thats weird. What would of stopped people bringing in their own cans and saying they bought them in the pub ?

The hiding they would get for it

Jumboman

Bandana boy wrote: »

The hiding they would get for it

Then they could sue the pub.

jimmii

Jumboman wrote: »

Then they could sue the pub.

Doesn't seem like the place you would get many witnesses coming forward to support your case.

Bandana boy

Jumboman wrote: »

Then they could sue the pub.

A bigger hiding for that

Jumboman

Bandana boy wrote: »

A bigger hiding for that

Does that pub operate outside the law ?

Bandana boy

Jumboman wrote: »

Does that pub operate outside the law ?

in a word ,yes

Jumboman

Bandana boy wrote: »

in a word ,yes

Isnt that pub right beside a Garda station ? I cant see how they would get away with doing **** like that.

uch

Jumboman wrote: »

Isnt that pub right beside a Garda station ? I cant see how they would get away with doing **** like that.

Go in and Have a Look some day, then you'll understand

Meauldsegosha

Jumboman wrote: »

Isnt that pub right beside a Garda station ? I cant see how they would get away with doing **** like that.

Did you come down in the last shower? People get away with doing **** like that everyday of the week.

Muahahaha

Jumboman wrote: »

Thats weird. What would of stopped people bringing in their own cans and saying they bought them in the pub ?

Some people do try to sneak a few cans in when they're allowed, I remember being in the Windjammer just off Pearse St a few years back at closing. They sell (at least then) cans of Tennants and the table next to us was packed with empty cans of Tennants that'd they'd bought at the bar. But when closing time came and the bar staff stopped serving a few of them were dragging cans of Tennants out of their bags and just cracking them right open. To be honest I'd say the owner Rory there knows it goes on but so long as they'd spent a good bit throughout the night he'd let it slide.
Another thing is with these type of pubs in working class areas is that most people would be mortified to get barred because their whole family and extended families plus friends and hangers on all drink in the same local boozer. So while they might fall around the place locked drunk on a Friday night they'd also be conscious of stepping out of line as the pub is their primary social outlet. I've worked as a batman in pubs in some pretty rough areas in the past and while you do have to deal with the odd unsavoury character by and large the regulars are sound out and are always on your side, they'll even point out people who are barred and put you wise to them. They see it as their pub as much as the owner does and the regulars don't want any hassle where they drink, they just want a bit of craic and a few pints.

Jumboman wrote: »

Isnt that pub right beside a Garda station ? I cant see how they would get away with doing **** like that.

The Garda station moved away from the Towers about 8 or 9 years back. It is now further down the road towards town. But you're right- the Garda station was next door for years. I remember that station looked like a bunker, it had 3 meter high barricading all the way around the perimeter and looked like a fortress to be defended. But my guess is that the owners of the Towers at the time ran a clean shop- if there was no hassle arising from people they served then the guards won't give them hassle. So I guess they just got to know which customers to avoid and made sure there was little or no trouble.

Mr Simpson

Bandana boy wrote: »

in a word ,yes

If you're going to make an accusation like that, I recommend you do so to the Guards, not on Boards.

Move on folks

neris

the owner of the towers use to have to get a garda escort to the bank. got held up a load of times before deciding be cheaper to pay for the garda escort then getting robbed

beertons

Nice guy he is. Told me about the day the builder came in and offered him the money for it. He had to be out in 3 weeks. He rang him then 2 years later, and asked him if he wanted to lease it back off him. Not a hope was the reply. Poor fellow buried his wife last week. OT I know, where's another big pub guys?