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'Missing' People.

  • 10-03-2014 2:10pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭


    Unless it is a child, or disabled adult, I won't share the info or photo.

    Adults have should have the right to vanish into the world and hide themselves away if they need that. Last thing they need is some biddie chasing them down the street screaming!!! "Hey Gerry Flynn...your friends in Cork are looking for you!!!"

    A lot of times some folks need to forget themselves and they move away and live their lives out in peace bothering no one. Once it is not an insurance scam, leave them be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,560 ✭✭✭tigger123


    I think you owe it to the people that care about you to let them know you're alive and well. It's the least you can do.

    That 'Into The Wild' film really pissed me off in that regard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    I'm sure the percentage of people who want to go off grid from their past compared to people in real trouble or mental health issues who need help is vastly different don't you think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    It's a ****ty thing to do to the people who love you to leave them wondering if you've been raped and dismembered somewhere. How about leaving a note?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭GenieOz


    Maybe they should inform someone if they're going away for a while.
    Disappearing without notification with people who would be missing your presence is not the actions of a responsible adult.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 165 ✭✭Baze


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    A lot of times some folks need to forget themselves and they move away and live their lives out in peace bothering no one.

    ..and what of those that don't fit the above profile?

    Who could be ill, or think people are angry with them over something when they are not?

    Each case is is different, but for sure there are times when it is appropriate to share an adult's photo with the public in an effort to trace them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Somebody who decides to go off grid = gards knock on the door, "I'm grand thanks gard, just wanted to get away from x"

    Somebody with problems = they can get the help that's needed once their found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Unless it is a child, or disabled adult, I won't share the info or photo.

    Adults have should the right to vanish into the world and hide themselves away if they need that. Last thing they need is some biddie chasing them down the street screaming!!! "Hey Gerry Flynn...your friends in Cork are looking for you!!!"

    A lot of times some folks need to forget themselves and they move away and live their lives out in peace bothering no one. Once it is not an insurance scam, leave them be.


    This is a bloody ridiculous post to be honest, and i dont say that lightly.

    If somebody's child or sibling or parent has disappeared, why wouldnt they do everything they can to find the person. And why wouldnt people help them to do it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭finix


    Go ''Off grid'' if you wish but let someone know that's what you are doing. You need not tell of your plans location etc but to just vanish and say nothing to no one is very selfish. If someone I cared about just disappeared I would think the worst, dead somewhere etc, But if they left a note, told someone they were going offside for however long I would be able to sleep at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,809 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    And what about genuine missing adults who are in trouble? should we just not search for them so?

    Stupid thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    What if you are on your way home and struck by a vehicle, lying in a ditch seriously injured... then what OP? Still wouldn't want people looking for you?

    The people searching do not know the circumstances of the missing person. They don't consider that the person may have gone missing on his/her own accord and they shouldn't think that way either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Unless it is a child, or disabled adult, I won't share the info or photo.

    Adults have should have the right to vanish into the world and hide themselves away if they need that. Last thing they need is some biddie chasing them down the street screaming!!! "Hey Gerry Flynn...your friends in Cork are looking for you!!!"

    A lot of times some folks need to forget themselves and they move away and live their lives out in peace bothering no one. Once it is not an insurance scam, leave them be.

    Lucky that you seem to be alone in your opinion because if everybody ignored missing people as you do then there would be an increase in suicides and many bodies never found, families left wondering what has become of their loved one. In my opinion, the percentage of people who go missing that arent emotionally hurt in some way would be very low. People rarely go missing because they want to just 'get away' for a day or two. Anybody with an ounce of emotional intelligence will know how worried their families will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    There was a missing persons report a few weeks ago in Cork on breaking news I recognised the name and googled it, the same person had gone missing for Christmas and new year turned up again in January then went missing again a few weeks later?!?
    Why go looking for someone who doesn't want to be found?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Yeah, because if I'd been snatched off the street and was being raped and tortured somewhere what I'd want is my family deciding that I hated them all and had vanished to avoid them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Sadderday


    its one of the most traumatic things that could happen to any family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid


    People do have the right to go off the grid, but that doesn't meant they can't let people know that. Calling someone once saying you're ok doesn't mean you're back on the grid. It just means you makes sure those who love you know that you're still alive.

    I did a lot of work in 4th and 5th year in school regarding missing people (ultimately leading to the National Missing Persons Day announced last year). All the families want is some form of contact, one little message saying "I'm Ok". That's all. Those who go "missing" of their own doing can choose to do so, and a lot do. But for those who just simply vanish, it's a totally different story. If you want to find someone, people need to know who they're looking for. That means the persons face everywhere. The more people who know, the more people who could spot them. That doesn't mean all of those people are involved in the search directly, but rather indirectly. The faster you can get information out once the person goes missing, the more chances you have that someone will notice them if they see them in the street.

    Having a loved one go missing is one of the worst things that can happen to a family. You are left in an eternal limbo; are they dead? Are they alive? Was it something I did? All those questions go through your mind. When someone goes missing, you very rarely get closure. When someone is missing for a long time, the like of Annie Boyle in 1977, even their remains is enough. When someone is missing you can never grieve. You can never say you've suffered a loss. There is a gap in your life for the rest of your existence, and you spend your life trying to refill it by finding them. Many missing people have torn their families apart; some come to terms with them missing before others and don't want to search any more, while others never give up.

    Missing People is an issue that for many years was ignored. What do you say to someone who has a missing loved one? Sorry for your loss? Hope you find them? It is an incredibly difficult issue to approach, but was forced onto the world by the McCann case. Since then, Missing Persons has been a slightly easier topic to approach. This trend is continuing with the new National Missing Persons Day. There ARE people looking and there ARE people who will listen to you if you want to stay off the grid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,199 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    You can do whatever you like, as long as you don't leave a spouse and/or children and one or more parents and/or siblings behind worried out of their minds over you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I think you owe it to the people that care about you to let them know you're alive and well. It's the least you can do.

    That 'Into The Wild' film really pissed me off in that regard.

    I hated that movie, dumbass hippie goes off and gets himself lost and dies from his own stupidity, add good soundtrack and we're supposed to feel inspired by him, g'way.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I don't understand how you're supposed to 'find' a missing person. If they've been kidnapped and locked up somewhere or have drowned there's not much you can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Unless it is a child, or disabled adult, I won't share the info or photo.

    Adults have should have the right to vanish into the world and hide themselves away if they need that. Last thing they need is some biddie chasing them down the street screaming!!! "Hey Gerry Flynn...your friends in Cork are looking for you!!!"

    A lot of times some folks need to forget themselves and they move away and live their lives out in peace bothering no one. Once it is not an insurance scam, leave them be.

    I hope it never happens to you. But God forbid it did, come back to me and tell me you mean every word in you're post. Trust me you wont.

    Until you experience it, like I am currently, I personally dont think you deserve to have an attitude like that.

    Its the most idiotic post on boards, and shows how narrow minded you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Adults have should have the right to vanish into the world and hide themselves away if they need that.

    Not stopping you.

    Nice knowing ya!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Seems to be a spate of teens going missing and turning up again a few days later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭_rebelkid


    Seems to be a spate of teens going missing and turning up again a few days later.

    There's a spate of them being recorded you mean. Teens have been doing that for years, but with the incredibly connected world we live in, not hearing from someone for a few hours is abnormal.

    But you're correct. Many teenagers just leave for a few days, and are fine. This is often due to issues at home or personal mental health issues. Some teens find it difficult to adjust to their changes, and as always there's issues from school; bullying, pressure etc.

    What many organisations are trying to do is to prevent young people from going missing like that. Try and get them the help they may need before they go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭cruais


    My view is on a personal level. Tge days go by and by. I have zero information. The thoughts of my parents going to their graves without further information, kills me more and more to this day.

    And then you have individuals who Come on this, hiding behind a keyboard, proclaiming its fine to go missing without any consequences.

    As the saying goes,
    "Never judge a person until you've walked a mile in their shoes."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    In our house, they're usually in the jax. There's some damn good reading in there, time just flies.

    On the actually missing bit, the not knowing would be dreadful for the loved ones - it would be a cruel thing to do, and very selfish.


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