Dublin clamper's threatening a STRIKE

dave1982

Clampers in Dublin are considering strike action over a pay dispute.
SIPTU workers at Dublin Street Parking Services have been waiting since 2011 for a 2.5% wage rise and will vote today to decide if they should take industrial action to force management to pay.
Employees agreed to postpone the increase until 2013, but they still have not received the extra money.
It is now likely that a strike will go ahead and SIPTU Organiser, John King, says the pay rise may seem small but it's the principal that counts.

They'll be missed :eek:

Red Crow

dave1982 wrote: »

They'll be missed :eek:

Funnily enough they probably would. Imagine the state of parking on the streets without them?

99% of people who get clamped, deserve to be clamped.

blastman

Red Crow wrote: »

Funnily enough they probably would. Imagine the state of parking on the streets without them?

99% of people who get clamped, deserve to be clamped.

Yeah, there'd be a load of cars that could easily be moved, the horror!!

Most people are clamped in legitimate parking spots anyway, they're clamped because they don't have permission to park there (private parking, meter runs out, etc)

djimi

blastman wrote: »

Yeah, there'd be a load of cars that could easily be moved, the horror!!

Most people are clamped in legitimate parking spots anyway, they're clamped because they don't have permission to park there (private parking, meter runs out, etc)

You wait and see what happens if there is a free for all day in Dublin if these guys go on strike. I wont be driving into the city that day...

blastman

Can I have your space, then?

djimi

Just park on a footpath; everyone else will that day...!

listermint

djimi wrote: »

You wait and see what happens if there is a free for all day in Dublin if these guys go on strike. I wont be driving into the city that day...

Wouldnt that just mean tickets on peoples windows instead ?


I dont envisage the type of anarchy some people dream up.

Caliden

listermint wrote: »

Wouldnt that just mean tickets on peoples windows instead ?


I dont envisage the type of anarchy some people dream up.

Well the question is what happens when a car is normally clamped, is it ticketed first and then a clamper comes along?

Nixer Jim

Clamping could be eliminated by simply making a parking fine applicable to the motor tax of a vehicle. So if you're fined and don't pay up, come taxing your car time , the fine is sitting waiting for you.

No tax then the car is impounded. Cars with outstanding fines would be non transferable to new owners till existing penalty is paid.

See, no need for middle men clampers. Simples.

djimi

listermint wrote: »

Wouldnt that just mean tickets on peoples windows instead ?


I dont envisage the type of anarchy some people dream up.

Do the clamping company not deal with tickets as well?

To be honest the reason why clamping was introduced was because parking tickets werent really having much of an impact. Im only being a little bit tongue in cheek about how bad it would be if the clampers were to strike, but I could see a lot of people seeing it as a parking amnesty day and abandoning their cars wherever they feel like in the knowledge that they wont be clamped!

djimi

Nixer Jim wrote: »

Clamping could be eliminated by simply making a parking fine applicable to the motor tax of a vehicle. So if you're fined and don't pay up, come taxing your car time , the fine is sitting waiting for you.

No tax then the car is impounded. Cars with outstanding fines would be non transferable to new owners till existing penalty is paid.

See, no need for middle men clampers. Simples.

In an ideal world that would be a great system. However given how many people in this country seem to think that motor tax is an optional payment, Im not sure how well it would work in reality!

Guy:Incognito

Nixer Jim wrote: »

Clamping could be eliminated by simply making a parking fine applicable to the motor tax of a vehicle. So if you're fined and don't pay up, come taxing your car time , the fine is sitting waiting for you.

No tax then the car is impounded. Cars with outstanding fines would be non transferable to new owners till existing penalty is paid.

See, no need for middle men clampers. Simples.

So cheap cars are basically free parking machines? Buy a car for 500. Drive for a couple of months while you work in Dublin City centre not paying for parking. Ditch the car and get another one. At a conservative tenner a day day you wouldn't be long paying for the car

dave45dave

Nixer Jim wrote: »

Clamping could be eliminated by simply making a parking fine applicable to the motor tax of a vehicle.

Don't say that , my collection of clamps is building up nicely

djimi

dave45dave wrote: »

Don't say that , my collection of clamps is building up nicely

Not from the council they are not. We are talking about fully legal clamping, not private operators.

cena

Dublin council made over 4 million from the clampers last years. 54,000 cars where clamped in dublin.

Red Crow

cena wrote: »

Dublin council made over 4 million from the clampers last years. 54,000 cars where clamped in dublin.

56,000 actually and they want 4,000 more. The 4k extra is the council being greedy for money. I think the on street parking in Dublin works well. As I've said DSPS do a decent job if managing it. The council contract tender drives the poor cases of clamping. There are certain other various issues involved but the main problem is the competition when the contract goes to tender.

biko

Source? Did he actually say "it's the principal that counts"?

pcardin

Nixer Jim wrote: »

Clamping could be eliminated by simply making a parking fine applicable to the motor tax of a vehicle. So if you're fined and don't pay up, come taxing your car time , the fine is sitting waiting for you.

No tax then the car is impounded. Cars with outstanding fines would be non transferable to new owners till existing penalty is paid.

See, no need for middle men clampers. Simples.

This is actually nearly how it works in Latvia. Parking tickets, speeding tickets, other car related fines are in the system. Yearly tax can not be purchased if anything outstanding is there, car can not change owners either untill previous owner pays off all fines. Bank or leasing company can also add their record that forbids the system to change ownership if any outstanding debt.

Red Kev

Nixer Jim wrote: »

Clamping could be eliminated by simply making a parking fine applicable to the motor tax of a vehicle. So if you're fined and don't pay up, come taxing your car time , the fine is sitting waiting for you.

No tax then the car is impounded. Cars with outstanding fines would be non transferable to new owners till existing penalty is paid.

See, no need for middle men clampers. Simples.

People would park a lot worse than now, as the visual deterrent isn't there. It's a nice idea, but I don't think it would work. If they had the possibility of taking it off your PAYE/SW payment then I'd be more inclined to agree with it.

Red Crow wrote: »

56,000 actually and they want 4,000 more. The 4k extra is the council being greedy for money. I think the on street parking in Dublin works well. As I've said DSPS do a decent job if managing it. The council contract tender drives the poor cases of clamping. There are certain other various issues involved but the main problem is the competition when the contract goes to tender.

Clamping cost the council money, in Dublin in 2013, it cost €6.1 million and brought in €4.3 million.

The clamps also work to encourage people to park properly, increasing revenue from on street parking, and also letting traffic flow better thus saving money on people not being caught up in traffic delays because some bald ox goes off for half an hour for a paper and a fry up.

I don't know how many people here remember Dublin before the clampers, it was chaotic at times, parking wardens existed but the Guards had to chase up fines etc. Waste of time and money. The present system is there for a reason and it works pretty well IMO.

scudzilla

It's all a ploy

They apparently have a 60,000 per year target and are running a bit below target.

Announce a strike for a certain day, everyone drives into work and parks where they want, then, at 11:00 they call off the strike and send out the vans, it'd be a killing

Red Kev

scudzilla wrote: »

It's all a ploy

They apparently have a 60,000 per year target and are running a bit below target.

Announce a strike for a certain day, everyone drives into work and parks where they want, then, at 11:00 they call off the strike and send out the vans, it'd be a killing

Anybody who dumps their car where it isn't supposed to be deserves a clamp.

chris_john_lane

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