Parking in a housing estate

sallyannesal

Just want to know the rules regarding this road issue. I parked my car in a housing estate close to the bus stop. The estate had no yellow or White lines. There were literally no lines outside the houses where I parked and i did not block any driveways. I parked and went into town. When i came back to my car, a woman from the house in front of where I parked came over to me and started yelling at me saying "youre not ALLOWED to park here, it was very inconvenient to have u park outside my driveway all weekend" (I was not there all weekend only for maybe 12 hours but that's beside the point) she was very rude the tone in which she spoke to me! As I am only a recent driver, I thought maybe I wasn't supposed to park there and I apologised and said "I'm sorry but I thought It was ok as there were no lines" and she screamed back at me and said "THERE WILL BE CLAMPERS ALONG HERE".... I felt there is a nice way to say something to somebody and she really upset me the way she dealt with me
Am I indeed not allowed to park there? Can I really be clamped even though it was not pay and display and there were no lines on the road?
I like to park in that estate as I can't drive Into town and the bus stop is far from my home...
Thanks

corkgsxr

Iff theres no lines or designation (taxi/bike) and your not blocking anything and its not too close to a corner, you can park where ever you want.

amdublin

As much as I would like to I do not OWN the space outside my house. And neither does that lady (as much as she wants to/ thinks she does)

Ken.

There may be no lines and there may be nothing in the rules to stop you but park there again and have a few quid set aside for the damage that might happen that no one sees. I've heard of wipers broke off,panels scratched,tyres deflated or slashed, headlights damaged.

spaceHopper

Some private estates do run clampers but there would be signs up. On the public street or road even in an estate then no she's wrong it's a free country and you can park. Make sure you brush up on the rules like don't park on a bend or close to a junction, if there is a continuous white line in the centre. If someone gives you hassle be polite, if they really give you hassle just leave

NoQuarter

Park there all you want. In fact, if it was me, Id park there on purpose from now on.

NinjaTruncs

As the previous poster said if there are no lines or signs up you can park where you want.

However personally speaking I find it very inconsiderate to park outside of someones house all day long, it is very possible it caused inconvenience to the owner of the house, just for your convenience. Is there somewhere in the estate you can park that isn't directly outside or someones house, such as at the side of a corner house.

youandme13

This only happened to me a few weeks ago.. So every weekday from then till now I have made it my mission to park right outside her house haha!! I didnt even have the engine turned off when she banged on my window..such a b**ch, and its only 3 days a week thank god hehe!!! )

spurious

I would pay attention to ken's post. Tempers can run very high.

NoQuarter

spurious wrote: »

I would pay attention to ken's post. Tempers can run very high.

True but im sure she knows where the crack lives. I wouldnt tamper with a car if someone knew where my house was.

WayneScott

the road outside her house is not hers but you cannot park in such as way as to block her access or exiting her own driveway

And i think you can't park so as to create a danger for her when she tries to access her own house?

whomitconcerns

been there with a previous car...had no where else to park...car was vandalised 5 times.....guardai even offered I could park in the stations private car parking as they could do nothing..Pretty sure I knew who it was but not an ounce of proof..

Its not worth it

Victor

youandme13 wrote: »

This only happened to me a few weeks ago.. So every weekday from then till now I have made it my mission to park right outside her house haha!! I didnt even have the engine turned off when she banged on my window..such a b**ch, and its only 3 days a week thank god hehe!!! )

So you are deliberately harassing someone?

whomitconcerns

ken wrote: »

I've heard of wipers broke off,panels scratched,tyres deflated or slashed, headlights damaged.

Wiper broken off at base..check
panels scratched..check..every single one and also the drivers side window.
dogsh1t rubbed under door handle and wipers
wing mirror...twice smashed completely..glass broken once also

Again...not worth it....all the above on same car...

minusthebear

it's a complete twatish thing to do. If you continue to do it expect retaliation.

Larbre34

Just take care that the estate in question is in fact public (in charge of the local CoCo) and not privately managed - privately managed estates dont always have entrance gates and private management companies will clamp you for between 100 and 300 euro

If its public and you arent violating anything else like yellow lines, continuous white lines, obstructing access or parking within 5m of a corner or junction then park away....

racso1975

minusthebear wrote: »

it's a complete twatish thing to do. If you continue to do it expect retaliation.

Surely you are just giving in to bullyboy tactics then? The next person who parks there will get the same treatment. I agree that I would not make it my daily mission to park in the space to piss them off but would not be intimidated by aggressive behaviour eithe

kingtut

It is situations like these that make me glad I have a dash cam with parking mode!

minusthebear

racso1975 wrote: »

Surely you are just giving in to bullyboy tactics then? The next person who parks there will get the same treatment. I agree that I would not make it my daily mission to park in the space to piss them off but would not be intimidated by aggressive behaviour eithe

I've been on both sides of this scenario in the past, life is too short for these type of squabbles. A reasonable, level headed approach is what I'd do first.

After that, if the behavior continues, all bets are off, but the reasonable approach usually works.

Tzardine

minusthebear wrote: »

it's a complete twatish thing to do. If you continue to do it expect retaliation.

I really dont see how. If you are parked on a road, not blocking anybody's access and not breaking the law then what is the problem. Sure if somebody was causing an obstruction I would be all for saying it to them but not if they are parking legally.

You do not own the road outside your house.

Anybody that damages another persons car just because they dont agree with how they are parked is a scumbag.

Tayto2000

Lot of people think they do though!

Tzardine

Tayto2000 wrote: »

Lot of people think they do though!

FFS the cones are chained to the shore and what looks like a pillar put there specifically for the purpose of chaining a cone to.

Uriel.

Tayto2000 wrote: »

Lot of people think they do though!

We want our front garden and our parking space. :rolleyes:

Don't know why the council haven't removed them to be honest

whomitconcerns

Tzardine wrote: »

Anybody that damages another persons car just because they dont agree with how they are parked is a scumbag.

I think we all agree...but see how much that helps you when your car is vandalised and you are paying for the repairs yourself..and the police say sorry we cant help you without evidence

kingtut

minusthebear wrote: »

I've been on both sides of this scenario in the past, life is too short for these type of squabbles. A reasonable, level headed approach is what I'd do first.

After that, if the behavior continues, all bets are off, but the reasonable approach usually works.

I have to say I have also been on both sides of it also.

Currently I park outside the house in a 'marked' parking space as one of the other guys rarely uses his car and parks in the driveway (which makes sense and I don't mind it).

At least once or twice a week there is another car parked there (I have no clue who it is) but I have never said anything or put a note on the car. At the end of the day while I treat it as my 'regular' spot I am in no way more entitled to it than anyone else.

Unless someone is blocking someone else's driveway or obstructing the flow of traffic then they should be allowed to park wherever they like (provided also that they have a valid parking permit etc where required)

Larbre34

Always report chancers who cordon off bits of the public road and footpath for their own use, theyll be the ones prosecuted not the motorists.

um7y1h83ge06nx

This issue comes up again and again.

You are right of course OP but as others have said beware that some people will take things too far and could vandalise your car.

It wrecks my head when I see stuff like in the picture. As much as people may like they don't own the public roadway outside a house.

I've seen a house in Limerick here put two old chairs with a plank across it on the actual road.

minusthebear

Tzardine wrote: »

I really dont see how. If you are parked on a road, not blocking anybody's access and not breaking the law then what is the problem. Sure if somebody was causing an obstruction I would be all for saying it to them but not if they are parking legally.

You do not own the road outside your house.

Anybody that damages another persons car just because they dont agree with how they are parked is a scumbag.

Personally, leaving aside ownership of the roads etc, I just considerate it rude to park outside someone's house.

Despot Dan

Are there any restrictions regarding HGV's parking overnight in housing estates ?
My street is looking more like a business park than a residential estate with all the vans and trucks at night , although driven by residents. I know there are rules against artics but what about smaller HGV's

Paulw

Despot Dan wrote: »

Are there any restrictions regarding HGV's parking overnight in housing estates ?

Ask your local council. They can put a restriction in place, if deemed necessary.

Victor

Despot Dan wrote: »

Are there any restrictions regarding HGV's parking overnight in housing estates ?
My street is looking more like a business park than a residential estate with all the vans and trucks at night , although driven by residents. I know there are rules against artics but what about smaller HGV's

Are there signs like this for you area?

They might cover the entire town / city.

goz83

A neighbour across from me has the attitude, where he thinks he owns the space outside his house. He must also think he owns the pathway outside my driveway, because he snarls and glares if my car is blocking access for his car to drive up onto the pathway leading into my garden, making his turn and reverse park manoeuvre last an extra 2 seconds. I did park outside his house a couple of times this week though, under the street light. But, I did leave him the space outside my house, under the massive tree that p!sses down sap and insects all summer long :pac:

OP, if you're parking outside that lunatics house again, get a dash cam for your car that can record in park mode. Don't park there on purpose, but don't be intimidated if you do park there.

quad_red

And this is what happens when civility is thrown out the window.

Undoubtedly she acted unreasonably. But do you know her situation? Is she just a crank? Could she be a full time carer and getting a disabled person in and out of the house to a car?

Like, I don't know. But why would you not just avoid the grief and just park someplace else? Rather than deliberately parking on front of someone's house far away from where you live just to show that 'b*tch' who the boss is?

I do not get people deliberately seeking out conflict!?!?!

kingtut

Doesn't matter whether people park deliberately outside someone's house or not, people DO NOT own the space outside of their house. Vandelising someone's property because they park outside your property (which they are legally entitled to do) is a scumbag thing to do!

Granted some people may be disabled etc but if this is the case they should have a designated disabled space which I am sure the council can supply / paint where deemed necessary.

There is NEVER an excuse for damaging someone else's property.

quad_red

kingtut wrote: »

Doesn't matter whether people park deliberately outside someone's house or not, people DO NOT own the space outside of their house. Vandelising someone's property because they park outside your property (which they are legally entitled to do) is a scumbag thing to do!

Granted some people may be disabled etc but if this is the case they should have a designated disabled space which I am sure the council can supply / paint where deemed necessary.

There is NEVER an excuse for damaging someone else's property.

I'm not saying there is.

I'm just saying that overall, for all concerned, why would you not avoid someone who is so upset (with reason or not)?

The right to park in front of HER house to show HER a lesson isn't some inalienable civil right for Christs sake.

kingtut

quad_red wrote: »

I'm not saying there is.

I'm just saying that overall, for all concerned, why would you not avoid someone who is so upset (with reason or not)?

The right to park in front of HER house to show HER a lesson isn't some inalienable civil right for Christs sake.

Sorry just to clarify my post was more of a general comment and not a direct response to your post.

I agree it is best to avoid someone who is upset / angry however it may be the case that all of the other parking spaces are taken and the people parking there are doing it as a last resort.

Also while it is important not to intentionally upset/anger someone it is also important for people to understand that they don't own the space outside where they live.

Suziequatro

Hi, I have heard of this before as my neighbour used to tell people not to park outside her house - no matter who they were. On occasions it was service people ie gas coming to check a house or a delivery van. She was completely in the wrong as you not own the house of your house its a public road, unless you park across their driveway and cause access problems for them.

In another instance cars were vandalised as was mine when I parked in a certain area to get to the bank. I know it can be a pain having cars outside your house but people only do it as a last resort. There should never be any reason to vandalise anyones property. My car was keyed and like that the gardai said they knew it was happening on this road but there was nothing they could do unless you actually had proof of who did the deed. I would advise parking somewhere else for peace of mind.

FAILSAFE 00

I'd never consider housing estates as public car parks.

Housing estates are usually full of children and adding Joe Public's cars to the already parked resident cars causes safety issues.

While I am sure its legal to do, its simply not the right thing to do in my opinion.

RustyNut

ken wrote: »

There may be no lines and there may be nothing in the rules to stop you but park there again and have a few quid set aside for the damage that might happen that no one sees. I've heard of wipers broke off,panels scratched,tyres deflated or slashed, headlights damaged.

Thats the way scum-bags operate allright.

kingtut

As I have said in previous posts I have no problem people parking outside my place provided they do not block access.

Today I leave my house to find this council vehicle blocking not only my driveway but also my neighbours driveway! :mad:

Paulw

kingtut wrote: »

As I have said in previous posts I have no problem people parking outside my place provided they do not block access.

Today I leave my house to find this council vehicle blocking not only my driveway but also my neighbours driveway! :mad:

Call the Gardai. It's an offence under the Road Traffic Act to block access to your driveway. Let them deal with it.

Or ... just ask them to move. :rolleyes:

kingtut

Paulw wrote: »

Call the Gardai. It's an offence under the Road Traffic Act to block access to your driveway. Let them deal with it.

Or ... just ask them to move. :rolleyes:

No need to be a smartass, I asked them who owned the vehicle and to move it which they did but as soon as I left they put it right back where it was so when one of my housemates comes home (or the neighbours) they will have to move again.

They have no right to obstruct someone's point of entry.

Wickerman1

My kids school is located in a housing estate in South dublin. The residence have a big problem with parents parking outside their houses to bring/collect their kids to/from school.

Many have placed granite rocks on the grass verges on the public pathway outside their houses to obstruct people from parking, not giving any consideration that an elderly person or child could be injured if they tripped over them.

Paulw

kingtut wrote: »

They have no right to obstruct someone's point of entry.

That's why you should report it to the Gardai. Take the license plate details, take some photos, and report it to your local station.

Marcusm

Wickerman1 wrote: »

My kids school is located in a housing estate in South dublin. The residence have a big problem with parents parking outside their houses to bring/collect their kids to/from school.

Many have placed granite rocks on the grass verges on the public pathway outside their houses to obstruct people from parking, not giving any consideration that an elderly person or child could be injured if they tripped over them.

No one should be parking on the grass verges as these form part of the footway not the carriageway.

Wickerman1

Marcusm wrote: »

No one should be parking on the grass verges as these form part of the footway not the carriageway.

There is a concrete pathway too and a grass verge beside it with trees planted every so often. The cars that park there do not obstruct pedestrians in any way.

Some residents park their cars there too as they are entitled too, but some are just complete d**ks about it. Wonder who would liable if somebody tripped on one their illegally placed rocks!