Living in uk & want to Import car from the UK

rothai

Hey,
I've owned my car for 6 months and want to bring the car home to give to my wife. I'm going to be staying in the uk until june. Anyone know how I go about bringing the car in without paying the VRT? any help will be greatly recieved, thanks all

mickdw

I doubt you can unless you are moving permanently to Ireland yourself.
Revenue tend to look for alot of proof of permanent transfer such as address, bills, termination of employment in UK etc.

rothai

cheers mick,
I will be moving back permanently in june. Is there anyway she could drive it from now till then?

mickdw

rothai wrote: »

cheers mick,
I will be moving back permanently in june. Is there anyway she could drive it from now till then?

If she is resident here, I can't see how she can legally drive it here on uk plates.
If you as a couple have a residence in the UK I'm not so sure how its decided where primary residence is.

rothai

She is resident in Ireland alright. She could drive it on the uk plates, I never thought of that. I wonder will that effect when I go to register it in june?
Who would I go to see about it, to get the official line?

bazz26

You have to make an appointment with the NCTCS centre for VRT appraisal within 7 days of brining the car into the country. The VRT has to be paid and put on Irish plates within 30 days. Otherwise it cannot be driven over here by an Irish Resident.

There is information here on VRT:
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/vrt-guide.html

Information here on Transfer of Residency:
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/tax-relief-transfer-residence.html

If you qualify for VRT exemption then you cannot transfer ownership for 12 months.

sunnysoutheast

rothai wrote: »

She is resident in Ireland alright. She could drive it on the uk plates, I never thought of that. I wonder will that effect when I go to register it in june?
Who would I go to see about it, to get the official line?

I think an Irish resident can not drive a vehicle temporarily brought into the country:

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/temporary-exemption-foreign-registered.html

There is a form on the revenue website which details the evidence you need to avail of the VRT exemption, on a genuine transfer of residence.

CiniO

Only way I can think of, is registering a company in UK, registering a vehicle in company name, and employing your Irish resident wife.
Then she could drive it legally in Ireland as a company car.
But I suppose you wouldn't be able to bring it then in June to Ireland with VRT exemtpion, as it wouldn't be in your name anymore.

timmy4u2

rothai wrote: »

Hey,
I've owned my car for 6 months and want to bring the car home to give to my wife. I'm going to be staying in the uk until june. Anyone know how I go about bringing the car in without paying the VRT? any help will be greatly recieved, thanks all

There was, and I presume still is though I have not rechecked it, a loophole of sorts that state if you come into the country in the car you can drive it here.
You can also have it here for a period of time, maybe up to six months, dont quote me as working from memory once you are not permanently residing here and your worknis elsewhere etc. It is on the revenue website but Ivamvdriving atnthe moment.

CiniO

timmy4u2 wrote: »

There was, and I presume still is though I have not rechecked it, a loophole of sorts that state if you come into the country in the car you can drive it here.
You can also have it here for a period of time, maybe up to six months, dont quote me as working from memory once you are not permanently residing here and your worknis elsewhere etc. It is on the revenue website but Ivamvdriving atnthe moment.

There is something like this of course.
If you are not resident in Ireland, you can bring a vehicle to Ireland and keep it and use it for specified time (6 or 12 months it is, i'm not sure).
But if you become resident in Ireland, you must register it straigh away.

This however doesn't solve OP's problem, as his wife as Irish resident, wouldn't be able to drive it anyway.

timmy4u2

CiniO wrote: »

There is something like this of course.
If you are not resident in Ireland, you can bring a vehicle to Ireland and keep it and use it for specified time (6 or 12 months it is, i'm not sure).
But if you become resident in Ireland, you must register it straigh away.

This however doesn't solve OP's problem, as his wife as Irish resident, wouldn't be able to drive it anyway.

If she enters the country with it she can. If you arevon the pooter Cini0 look up under where it refers to a chauffeur etc.

Other problem I see is with the Insurance. Most UK I nsurance companies will insure in another country for a limited time. Irish companies will insure english reg cars but are obliged to notify revenue if plates are not changed within a month or so.

R.O.R

CiniO wrote: »

Only way I can think of, is registering a company in UK, registering a vehicle in company name, and employing your Irish resident wife.
Then she could drive it legally in Ireland as a company car.
But I suppose you wouldn't be able to bring it then in June to Ireland with VRT exemtpion, as it wouldn't be in your name anymore.

That wouldn't work.

Why would being an employee of a UK based company, but being a resident in Ireland, make any difference?

slimjimmc

R.O.R wrote: »

That wouldn't work.

Why would being an employee of a UK based company, but being a resident in Ireland, make any difference?

Agreed, It would not work since normally state residents are not allowed to drive foreign reg vehicles for business use. Except where the vehicle is provided as part of a contract of employment and it is mainly for business use outside of the State, and Revenue have agreed it's ok.


http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/temporary-exemption-foreign-registered.html

corktina

She is here in advance of a permanent move, getting things set up, so I think she'd be OK driving it on UK plates as her permanent residence would still be in the UK.

timmy4u2

I've owned my car for 6 months and want to bring the car home to give to my wife

corktina wrote: »

She is here in advance of a permanent move, getting things set up, so I think she'd be OK driving it on UK plates as her permanent residence would still be in the UK.

According to the OP his wife is a resident of Ireland and he is bringing it home to give to her in Ireland so how can she be here in advance of a permanent move Read the post..

CiniO

R.O.R wrote: »

That wouldn't work.

Why would being an employee of a UK based company, but being a resident in Ireland, make any difference?

Because of exception for being able to use foreign company car also for private purposes in ROI if someone is employed by foreign company.
But As slimjimmc noticed, car must be used mainly for business use outside of state, so this is a no go for OP's wife.
This exception could work probably for someone living in ROI, and working in NI. He could have company car which he uses for work everyday in NI, and he only uses it privately to come back home after work to ROI and on weekends. I'd imagine at least that's how it could work.

slimjimmc wrote: »

Agreed, It would not work since normally state residents are not allowed to drive foreign reg vehicles for business use. Except where the vehicle is provided as part of a contract of employment and it is mainly for business use outside of the State, and Revenue have agreed it's ok.


http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/temporary-exemption-foreign-registered.html

So for OP's wife this is a no go.

timmy4u2

Bringing a foreign registered car into Ireland temporarily

What are the circumstances in which a foreign registered motor vehicle may be brought into the Republic of Ireland (the State) on a temporary basis?

These circumstances vary depending on whether the vehicle is intended for private or commercial use.

Private Use: What Conditions Apply

Any imported vehicle which is owned by or registered in the name of a non-resident person is not required to be registered in Ireland subject to the following conditions:

The vehicle must have been acquired with all the appropriate taxes paid and these must not have been exempted or refunded in any way. The standard registration plates in use in the domestic market of a country are normally accepted as evidence of this.
The vehicle may not in any circumstances be driven by a State resident.
The vehicle may not be disposed of or hired out in the State or lent to a State resident.
The period of time that the vehicle is in the State does not exceed 12 months.
A longer period may apply where a person is on a task of definite duration in the State.
What is meant by "State resident" and "non-resident"?

A "State resident" is a person whose normal residence is in the Republic of Ireland and a "non-resident" is anyone whose normal residence is outside the State. "Normal residence " means the place where a person usually lives (for at least 185 days each year) because of personal or occupational ties.

If a person's occupational ties are in a different country from his/her personal ties, then the country of personal ties is taken as the normal residence provided the person returns there regularly.

A person who is normally resident in the State but who lives outside the State primarily for the purpose of attending a school or university is regarded as a State resident.

The rules regarding normal residency are in line with the EU Directives in this regard, especially Directive 83/182/EEC

What If I am a foreign student?

If you reside temporarily in the State primarily for the purpose of pursuing a course of studies you may bring a foreign registered Category A vehicle (e.g. a saloon, estate, hatchback, convertible, coup�, MPV, Jeep, etc. a minibus (with less than 13 permanently fitted seats including the driver's seat)) or a motor-cycle into the State provided it is registered in the country of your normal residence. The same conditions mentioned in paragraph 2 above apply and the 12 month time limit will be extended until you have completed your course of studies.

What must I do if the vehicle ceases to meet the conditions for temporary exemption?

You must immediately either

permanently remove the vehicle from the State; or
apply to register the vehicle in the State and pay any tax due.
If you transfer residence to the State while your vehicle is temporarily in the State, you should immediately contact any Revenue Office and apply for exemption from payment of tax.

Before making your application, you should also read this carefully and then complete the Transfer of Residence application form.

Commercial Use
What conditions apply?

A motor vehicle which is owned by or registered in the name of a person established outside the State may be brought into the State for commercial purposes for a period not exceeding 12 months. The information contained in paragraphs 2, 3 and 5 above apply to commercial use. However, certain specific rules also apply.

What are the rules governing the carriage of passengers?

A vehicle brought temporarily into the State may not be used for the carriage of passengers for reward between places within the State unless duly authorised.

Enquiries in relation to the required authorisations and any other transport regulations should be made to the Department of Transport whose head office is located at Transport House, 44 Kildare St., Dublin 2. Telephone 01- 6707444.

What is the position regarding professional equipment?

A vehicle which has been designed or specially adapted as professional equipment may be used by a non-resident provided it is for that person�s use or for use under that person�s supervision. An example of such a vehicle is a mobile TV broadcast unit.

Are there any circumstances where a foreign registered vehicle can be hired?

Yes. If a hired Category A vehicle has been brought into the State by a non-resident under a hire contract which expired in the State, then the car-hire firm is allowed to re-hire it once to another non-resident in order to remove it from the State.

Can a State resident drive a foreign registered vehicle for business use?

A State resident can not normally drive a foreign registered vehicle for business use. However, there are a number of exceptional circumstances in which this rule does not apply. Those exceptional circumstances are:-

A State resident who is employed by an employer established in another Member State may, on application to the Revenue Commissioners, be approved to use a Category A vehicle or a motor-cycle registered in another Member State (either owned or leased by the employer) for business/private use in the State provided
the vehicle is provided as part of the contract of the employment, and
it is used principally for business use outside the State.
Application forms for this temporary exemption are available from any Revenue Office.

A State resident who is employed by an employer established in another Member State is eligible to use Category B & C vehicles registered in another Member State (either owned or leased by the employer) for business/private use in the State.
A State resident who is an employee of a car-hire firm established outside the State is allowed to drive a vehicle for the purpose of returning it to the firm after the vehicle was left in the State on expiry of a hire contract.
In other circumstances where authorised in writing by the Revenue Commissioners.
General
Are there formalities on arrival?

No. Once the conditions outlined in paragraph 2 above are met there are no formalities when you arrive in the State.

Source vrt

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corktina

timmy4u2 wrote: »

According to the OP his wife is a resident of Ireland and he is bringing it home to give to her in Ireland so how can she be here in advance of a permanent move Read the post..

why be so unpleasant?
, I'm making a suggestion of what his story could be in case of problems. It isn't usual for a wife to permanently live in Ireland whilst he lives permanently in the UK and this can be mansged for a coupleof months with the right documentation. I didn't think I;d have to spell it out.

timmy4u2

corktina wrote: »

why be so unpleasant?
, I'm making a suggestion of what his story could be in case of problems. It isn't usual for a wife to permanently live in Ireland whilst he lives permanently in the UK and this can be mansged for a coupleof months with the right documentation. I didn't think I;d have to spell it out.

But she does not live in the UK and you are therefore advising that fraudulent means are applied.
I was hoping that you just did not read the posts but now that you have qualified your statement there is no more doubt as to what you are saying:eek:

Apart from the illegality of it she would be rumbled by Revenue in a very short time and then they would both be in very serious trouble; so I am far from being unpleasant.