New Matrix Trilogy

Bacchus

And so it begins. The Wachowski's are rumoured to be returning to the world of The Matrix. It's nothing but a rumour by the looks of it but it's an interesting one. They've their new sci-fi/action movie, Jupiter Ascending, coming out this year. Maybe this is their next project?

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/new-matrix-trilogy-is-in-development/455087-8-67.html

No doubt it would make buckets of $$$ but given the convoluted way the original trilogy ended and the weakness of the action set pieces in Revolutions, is there any hope that this could be a fraction of the quality that the original was?

Goldstein

I'm more excited by this than any predictable Abrams Star Wars rehash or Terminator cash grab crap.

Pathetically lazy modern attempts at action/sci-fi even make the Matrix: Revolutions movie look ok, and I absolutely loathe that movie. Maybe the Wachowskis they can jolt the lethargic movie world back to life and show us something outlandish, something ambitious, something we haven't seen before as they have done many times in the past.

When Joel Silver remarked 15 years ago that it'll be many, many years before we see anything as ambitous or on the same scale as The Matrix again we all kind of scoffed at the back of our minds but he wasn't wrong.

Adamantium

The Second Renaissance is one of the most disturbing,tragic origin stories for a movie universe.

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in particular the darkening of the sky by humans backfiring believing they still worked on solar power, machines gaining sentience, world's struggle to realise the enormity of the life they created, Machine City One in Saudi Arabia

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I look forward to what they're going to do, whatever that may be. Yet I think all that needed to be said about the Matrix was said in the 1st movie.

Dempsey

Adamantium wrote: »

The Second Renaissance is one of the most disturbing,tragic origin stories for a movie universe.

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in particular the darkening of the sky by humans backfiring believing they still worked on solar power, machines gaining sentience, world's struggle to realise the enormity of the life they created, Machine City One in Saudi Arabia

)

I look forward to what they're going to do, whatever that may be. Yet I think all that needed to be said about the Matrix was said in the 1st movie.

That instantly has my attention

Hello_MrFox

I love sci-fi movies but there are not enough quality ones made IMO. Great news.

Adamantium

Dempsey wrote: »

That instantly has my attention

It's bleak as hell. It's a very chaotic, Kafkaesque, graphic tale.

The symbolism of the movies is even in more in force, the cold, gentle narration. Makes the Terminator apocalypse look a frollic through a meadow of daises.

Professey Chin

Adamantium wrote: »

It's bleak as hell. Graphic too.

The symbolism of the movies is even in more in force, the cold, gentle narration. Makes the Terminator apocalypse look a frollic through a meadow of daises.

Absolutely loved those shorts. The war itself was absolutely terrifying

Adamantium

Adamantium wrote: »

Yeah there were a few moments I had to look away, for a few seconds because what I was going to see would haunt my mind for a few days!

Beside the original movie itself, it's defintely the best thing to come from the series (maybe on par or even better). Very vivid storytelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLMjHrb_w4

Bipolar Joe

Not too fussed. Feel the same way about this as I do Robocop or Star Wars, which were also mentioned. I really don't think they're that great. I thought Ninja Assassin was a boring mess, Cloud Atlas was nice to look at sometimes but not much more, V For Vendetta was atrociously bad, Reloaded and Revolutions were unnecessary and a mess. I don't get the love. The Animatrix was very good, I thought, and I did like The Matrix, though I do think it's a tad over-rated. This, to me, just seems like a revisit to a franchise everyone knows will make money.

jill_valentine

The second two Matrix movies were horribly disappointing.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut - yes, the Animatrix shorts were incredible. "Vivid storytelling" is right, there's some unforgettable imagery in there, like the disintegrating horseman or the robot woman being beaten to pieces by the mob.

And the Animatrix comics, though largely overlooked, also did some amazing stuff within the Matrix world. So yes, this could be cool, there are still stories to be told.

Goldstein

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Not too fussed. Feel the same way about this as I do Robocop or Star Wars, which were also mentioned. I really don't think they're that great. I thought Ninja Assassin was a boring mess, Cloud Atlas was nice to look at sometimes but not much more, V For Vendetta was atrociously bad, Reloaded and Revolutions were unnecessary and a mess. I don't get the love. The Animatrix was very good, I thought, and I did like The Matrix, though I do think it's a tad over-rated. This, to me, just seems like a revisit to a franchise everyone knows will make money.

That's a bit like calling Terminator 2 overrated. That bland unsupported oft-regurgitated derisive term just can't be reasonably applied to some genre-defining movies. The Matrix is one such movie.

World Record was always my personal favourite off The Animatrix but they all hinted at the vast and imaginative scope the Wachowskis opened up for exploration. Whether they can still render those kinds of ideas and translate them into a compelling narrative is anyone's guess but I think they've earned the benefit of the doubt.

You also have the stories of the previous "The one"s before Seraph although knowing they ultimately fail takes some of the impetus out of their storylines. The Merovingian was underutilised as a big bad in Revolutions so would be great to see him take center stage again as a true antagonist. You couldn't discount the possibility of Keanu Reeves making an appearance either as he looks almost the exact same as he did 15 years ago.

I've noticed there's this mass cognitive bias that kicks in when it comes to "The Matrix sequels" where people only consider any points that confirm the popular opinion's collective opinion on the subject weighted overwhelmingly on the contents of the third installment. There's a solid hour and 20 minutes comprising most of Reloaded that absolutely blew people away - I remember the open-mouthed gaping even if people scoff today I don't buy it. To follow the Matrix was an impossible task but for well over an hour they expanded the universe and scaled new heights. Nothing remotely as ambitous has even been attempted since and that is its true legacy - so many scenes stand out as exemplary and groundbreaking even today. But what do people focus on - moaning about the Architect while selectively tuning out the immensity of everything that preceded it. You shouldn't discount Sunshine because it turns a bit slashery at the end. Reloaded should enjoy the same objectivity and appreciation.

Bipolar Joe

You're kind of putting words into my mouth, there, man. I didn't mention The Architect at all, for one.

Mickeroo

Goldstein wrote: »

That's a bit like calling Terminator 2 overrated. That bland unsupported oft-regurgitated derisive term just can't be reasonably applied to some genre-defining movies. The Matrix is one such movie.

World Record was always my personal favourite off The Animatrix but they all hinted at the vast and imaginative scope the Wachowskis opened up for exploration. Whether they can still render those kinds of ideas and translate them into a compelling narrative is anyone's guess but I think they've earned the benefit of the doubt.

You also have the stories of the previous "The one"s before Seraph although knowing they ultimately fail takes some of the impetus out of their storylines. The Merovingian was underutilised as a big bad in Revolutions so would be great to see him take center stage again as a true antagonist. You couldn't discount the possibility of Keanu Reeves making an appearance either as he looks almost the exact same as he did 15 years ago.

I've noticed there's this mass cognitive bias that kicks in when it comes to "The Matrix sequels" where people only consider any points that confirm the popular opinion's collective opinion on the subject weighted overwhelmingly on the contents of the third installment. There's a solid hour and 20 minutes comprising most of Reloaded that absolutely blew people away - I remember the open-mouthed gaping even if people scoff today I don't buy it. To follow the Matrix was an impossible task but for well over an hour they expanded the universe and scaled new heights. Nothing remotely as ambitous has even been attempted since and that is its true legacy - so many scenes stand out as exemplary and groundbreaking even today. But what do people focus on - moaning about the Architect while selectively tuning out the immensity of everything that preceded it. You shouldn't discount Sunshine because it turns a bit slashery at the end. Reloaded should enjoy the same objectivity and appreciation.

Yeah there was some amazing scenes alright, doesn't change it from being an average film overall though imo. Sunshine has more to appreciate than just aesthetics which is why it still stands up as a very good film despite an average third act. The first Matrix is held in high regard because it managed to have a well told story in among all the ground breaking action scenes, I can't fault the sequels for ambition but I can fault them for being not very good films.

KilOit

Adamantium wrote: »

The Second Renaissance is one of the most disturbing,tragic origin stories for a movie universe.

(

in particular the darkening of the sky by humans backfiring believing they still worked on solar power, machines gaining sentience, world's struggle to realise the enormity of the life they created, Machine City One in Saudi Arabia

)

I look forward to what they're going to do, whatever that may be. Yet I think all that needed to be said about the Matrix was said in the 1st movie.

Wasn't till i saw the animatrix did i know how grim the whole Matrix universe was, stuff was terrifying and a real possibility in real life. just hope when singularity arrives it's more like Her and less like The Matrix