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He chooses porn over sex

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  • 01-03-2014 3:16pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 25


    I've been in my relationship with my boyfriend for 7months now and our sex life has diminished to the point of non-existence! I've raised my concerns and told him how frustrated I am. He tells me that it's due to being tired and the long hours he works, which I understand. Last night he told me he was tired and going to sleep. I got out of bed and said I was going to watch a movie because I wasn't sleepy. I slept in the couch and in the morning I found he had spent the night watching porn. He literally has me sitting, sexually frustrated in the next room, and he picks porn. If it's this bad now, I don't see this lasting. Any advice? I don't care if he watches porn, we all do. I care that porn has replaced sex. I have to ask can we have sex. I'll try and initiate sex and then he'll reject my advances. I can't keep being shot down. Any advice


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  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭vertico


    You could watch the porn with him and see where it leads. Could be fun


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Tincan123 wrote: »
    I've been in my relationship with my boyfriend for 7months now and our sex life has diminished to the point of non-existence! I've raised my concerns and told him how frustrated I am. He tells me that it's due to being tired and the long hours he works, which I understand. Last night he told me he was tired and going to sleep. I got out of bed and said I was going to watch a movie because I wasn't sleepy. I slept in the couch and in the morning I found he had spent the night watching porn. He literally has me sitting, sexually frustrated in the next room, and he picks porn. If it's this bad now, I don't see this lasting. Any advice? I don't care if he watches porn, we all do. I care that porn has replaced sex. I have to ask can we have sex. I'll try and initiate sex and then he'll reject my advances. I can't keep being shot down. Any advice

    I'm sorry but at 7 months you still should be in the honeymoon phase and at it like rabbits. He prefers porn to having sex with a real human being I would save yourself the hassle and find a man who lives in the real world.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    I've suggested watching it together. He denies that he ever watches it (I'm not an idiot), but it's the last thing watched on his ipad. I agree, we should be in the honeymoon stage. I've never felt less desired by a man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    If I were you I would get out now - he's refusing to even acknowledge the existence of a problem so there's no more you can do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    That will make you feel shit. Trying to persuade him that having sex with you would be preferable to **** would make you feel more shit. It's up to him to take the initiative with this one if he wants to keep the relationship. Perpetual sexual rejection in favour of porn is going to mess up your self-esteem, nevermind the absence of that sort of intimacy.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    This has massively impacted my self-esteem. We tend to mess and slag each other a lot, but since the sex has stopped...I find when he slags me that I can't take the jokes anymore. It's silly things like messing with me about the size my nose etc. I used to slag back, but now these hurt me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    Legitimate question: the porn he watches is definitely heterosexual right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    Belittling you about your physical appearance while rejecting you sexually in favour of fantasy - this would make anyone feel horrible about themselves. He doesn't sound nice at all. He sounds abusive in fact. Kick that bozo to the kerb.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,269 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    How do you know it was the last thing he watched on his iPad?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    Yes, it understand the need to ask though. We used to have a great sex life, but no longer there. I've given up on trying to initiate anything because I can't face the rejection. I met him after my long term relationship broke up. I was cautious and didn't want to jump into something. I kept him at a distance but he pushed for this to become very serious. He speaks of the future and how he thinks that I'm the 'one'. I don't believe in that airy fairy 'one' mentality. I'm not a romantic. I'm practical, but he has knocked back to a low point. It's too soon to be in a rut, but we are.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    I went to google something this morning and the window open was porn. He had been looking at buying a dog when I got up to leave and say goodnight to him. In the morning, porn on the screen. I don't care if he's into it, but when he picks it over sex...that's messed up


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    on the appearance thing - we both used to mess and slag. It was teasing. No, he's very sweet. He's the nicest guy that I've ever met. I just hate begging for some action.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,269 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    How often had ye sex at the start of ye're relationship?
    Was it often or has things got a lot worse?
    Does he have a lower sex drive than you?
    Has anything changes since the start if the relationship? Has he become depressed, have you lost/gained weight? All these factors can effect sex life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    We used to have sex everyday. He would get upset and tell that we were never to go more than a few days without. He said it was important and I agree. If I was away, he would say 'it's been too long' etc. Now, it's maybe once a week when I ask. I feel that it's forced. It's over quickly and very distant. I've stayed the same weight. I've always worn clothes to show off my figure etc. I still do. I get done up for me. He has started working long hours, but this has never been a problem. When I'm overworked, I still make time for him. I can't understand. I haven't altered anything. we have a lot of fun together and joke all the time, but I feel things have fizzled too much in the bedroom. He HAD a massive sex drive ...I don't know what I've done


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭Tigger99


    Maybe it's a health thing for him or some fear of not performing? There could be many reasons and I know that it's a sensitive issue but you need to talk to him about it and make it clear if he does want to talk about it that you have to consider your future with him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 457 ✭✭Xaniaj


    Tincan123 wrote: »
    We used to have sex everyday. He would get upset and tell that we were never to go more than a few days without. He said it was important and I agree. If I was away, he would say 'it's been too long' etc. Now, it's maybe once a week when I ask. I feel that it's forced. It's over quickly and very distant. I've stayed the same weight. I've always worn clothes to show off my figure etc. I still do. I get done up for me. He has started working long hours, but this has never been a problem. When I'm overworked, I still make time for him. I can't understand. I haven't altered anything. we have a lot of fun together and joke all the time, but I feel things have fizzled too much in the bedroom. He HAD a massive sex drive ...I don't know what I've done

    Is it possible that this was an issue in a previous relationship of his? His insistence (early on) that you wouldn't go without sex for a few days sounds a little...odd to me!

    Have you broached the topic with him since you found the porn?


  • Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Tincan123 wrote: »
    Last night he told me he was tired and going to sleep. I got out of bed and said I was going to watch a movie because I wasn't sleepy. I slept in the couch and in the morning I found he had spent the night watching porn. He literally has me sitting, sexually frustrated in the next room, and he picks porn.


    If he is, as you say, literally sitting up all night watching porn when he has a woman in the next room begging him for sex, then TBH I think that points less towards an interest in porn, and more towards an unhealthy obsession with it - it seems to be at the point where HE needs to do something about it to break the cycle, before it becomes even more of a problem. I know that you have spoken to him before about this, but I think that you both should sit down and have a proper conversation - explain to him that whether he watches porn or not isn't the issues - it's the fact that it is taking away from your sex life to the point of it being non-existent, that you are concerned about.

    If he still refuses to acknowledge that it is a problem, and if you feel that he's not going to stop, then unfortunately you may need to sit down and have a serious think as to where this relationship is going, and if you still want to be a part of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,269 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Did he sit up all night and watch porn or did he just watched a little and headed to bed? Did you sleep in a separate room?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Tincan123 wrote: »
    This has massively impacted my self-esteem. We tend to mess and slag each other a lot, but since the sex has stopped...I find when he slags me that I can't take the jokes anymore. It's silly things like messing with me about the size my nose etc. I used to slag back, but now these hurt me.

    Jesus girl, get out now!

    But before you go install some programme on he's IPad that blocks porn.

    See how he feels being sexually frustrated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    I don't know if he stayed up all night, but I do know that I tried to initiate earlier in the night...it's pretty bad if he chooses to **** while I watch a movie in the other room so as not to wake him


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    I was afraid to wake him with my habit of watching a movie before bed so, I went to the sitting room. I tried to discuss this and he's denied looking at it and refuses to discuss our sex life. He keeps saying 'I'm tired'. He doesnt understand why I'm so upset


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    OP, you're only together 7 months, you should still be at the "I want you now!" stage!

    Seriously though, this is affecting your self esteem badly. You need to have a serious talk with him about this, I'd be worried about him having a porn addiction if he's willing to sit **** to a video on an iPad rather than have sex with his girlfriend. Explain to him that it's not the fact he's watching it that you're worried about, it's that he seems to reject you and choose the porn.

    Edit: Tell him straight up why you're so upset. Don't hold back and don't sugarcoat it in any way. I think you need to be really blunt with him.


  • Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Tincan123 wrote: »
    I tried to discuss this and he's denied looking at it and refuses to discuss our sex life. He keeps saying 'I'm tired'.

    And herein lies the root of the problem. The fact is, there is something in your relationship that is causing serious problems for you, and he is not only refusing to talk about it, but denying it completely. The fact that it's porn really doesn't matter - in other relationships it can be drink, or money, or bills etc - the problem is that he is unwilling to do anything about it to remedy it, and make it work with you.

    I'm not sure of the extent of your conversations with your partner over this, but if you feel that you have exhausted all options, and he's unwilling to budge on this even though it's having a devastating effect on your relationship and your self esteem, it may be time to ask yourself if this is the right relationship for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    Have you asked is he enjoying sex?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Tincan123


    When I try to discuss our sex life, he assumes that I'm bringing up this convo because, I'm feeling insecure and low. He doesn't realise that I'm insecure and low because we don't have sex. It's infuriating. I am low and very irritable due to this, which is only adding to his lacking desire


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    Tincan123 wrote: »
    When I try to discuss our sex life, he assumes that I'm bringing up this convo because, I'm feeling insecure and low. He doesn't realise that I'm insecure and low because we don't have sex. It's infuriating. I am low and very irritable due to this, which is only adding to his lacking desire

    Say these words to him and see what he says.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    Say these words to him and see what he says.

    I would say show him this thread and see what he says! Sounds like he doesn't even realise there's a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Tincan123 wrote: »
    When I try to discuss our sex life, he assumes that I'm bringing up this convo because, I'm feeling insecure and low. He doesn't realise that I'm insecure and low because we don't have sex. It's infuriating. I am low and very irritable due to this, which is only adding to his lacking desire


    OP I'm just throwing this out there as something to think about but it sounds like your boyfriend is the one who feels insecure and low and is projecting that onto you. From reading your posts it sounds like so, so many guys in relationships I've known where they thought no girl could match their libido, and then when they meet a girl that not only meets it, but exceeds it, they think they've hit the jackpot for a couple of weeks, until they're worn out and they simply can't keep up.

    This in turn leads to them feeling insecure about themselves and they start drawing into themselves and shying away from sex. The want is still there, and they can still love you in the same way, but that love isn't enough to give them the motivation to engage themselves physically, because they feel they're on the back foot sexually speaking at least. Porn gives them the physical release they need without the investment of physical effort with their partner. That's unfortunately how they come to see sex, as a physical effort, a chore. The noveltys worn off and they withdraw further and further into themselves.

    At that stage it's very hard to come back from and very rare that they do, instead preferring to muddle on with the other parts of the relationship and refusing to acknowledge the elephant in the room so to speak (terrible choice of words but I hope you get what I mean).

    The question you have to ask yourself now is, whether the relationship worth trying to salvage for all the good parts, and how much effort are you willing to put into salvaging the relationship and helping your boyfriend to understand your frustration, or is it just too much to take on and you've put yourself through enough already. Ultimatums won't do any good, but you really do need your boyfriend to roll in on this as you can't do it on your own. If he's still not willing to make an effort, then for your own mental health and your own happiness I'd be looking at ending the relationship before you put any further practical investment into it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, after 7 months you already sound exhausted.

    It shouldn't be this bad. I'm married 10 years and don't feel as sh$t as this guy has made you feel in 7 months.

    I have to ask you, do you honestly think there isn't a single other funny nice guy out there that would also make you feel desirable?

    You seem to think there must be some way to fix it, but it sounds like you've been pretty clear and direct and he's just stonewalling you. I'm not sure what else you can do, short of bursting into tears and begging him, which is bananas.

    And it's quite possible that it's not even the porn i.e. that he's just someone whose desire tails off the minute he "gets" someone (it sounds like you're living together already?) in which case it would be a lot more difficult than just persuading him to put down the porn for a week. It's possible that his original flurry of super-sex was driven by anxiety to win you, and now that he's comfortably paired off, he can relax into his regular low sex drive.

    If this is his legitimate sex drive, you are fundamentally incompatible in a huge part of an intimate relationship. I guess what you have to judge is which drive was/is the real one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Male here. Porn addiction is a serious issue. I stopped watching it altogether last November and since then have been having the best sex of my life with my OH of 6 years. And I was never particularly hooked on it... sounds like your OH has a major problem.

    It clicked with me one day when I was waiting for my GF to pack up her things and head off for the day and I just couldn't wait for her to leave so that I could go watch some porn.... it just clicked with me how fkied up this situation was that I couldn't wait for the girl I loved to fk off so that I could spend some time alone watching strangers have sex.

    I have no moral objections to porn whatsoever but I think this mentality is seriously fked up and I think it's going to be a serious problem in the next ten years or so when guys have constant sexual novelty at the click of a mouse.

    OP you need to decide if your relationship is worth fighting for... if it isn't... dump the guy and get yourself a man who would rather make love to a real woman and not his hand... if it is, sit him down and make him watch this:

    <mod snip - no youtube please>


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