No more half days allowed.......

TheDriver

http://education.ie/en/Circulars-and-Forms/Active-Circulars/cl0016_2014.pdf

I refer to the line
Schools are reminded that any day on which a school completes less than a full school day’s instruction shall not be counted as a full school day for the purposes of meeting the overall requirements of 167 days at post-primary or 183 days at primary level.

So can we take it that half days are gone gone gone............???

Crazyteacher

TheDriver wrote: »

http://education.ie/en/Circulars-and-Forms/Active-Circulars/cl0016_2014.pdf

I refer to the line
Schools are reminded that any day on which a school completes less than a full school day’s instruction shall not be counted as a full school day for the purposes of meeting the overall requirements of 167 days at post-primary or 183 days at primary level.

So can we take it that half days are gone gone gone............???

I take it then it'll be unofficial half days

Oink

Man I'm glad I'm not a teacher... I feel for ye. This kinda crap on top of the usual "sure don't they get the holidays" etc., you must feel loved.

seavill

We were told 3 years ago we weren't allowed any half days, havn't had one since then, Christmas, summer, anytime.

byhookorbycrook

We were told that half days are allowable when they were traditionally taken, ie Easter, Christmas and summer.

TheDriver

That was the case under the old circular but seems fairly black and white now....

spurious

We haven't had half days in the last few years, but most of the kids take them anyway, so we end up with four or five in a classroom, whining 'Can we not be let go home? St Mary's of the Holy Rosary Beads* have a half day'.


*not a real school name

Pwpane

"A full school day's instruction" - I wonder what qualifies as instruction?

Mock exams? School mass? Getting ready for the Leaving Cert? Inservice? Talks about Self Evaluation?

byhookorbycrook

Does anyone actually believe that there will be a possibility of primary children learning anything in the afternoon of the Christmas/summer hols? Baby sitting is about as much.

seavill

Secondary is the exact same, as someone said, your class with 6-7 students by 12pm watching dvds for the rest of the day,

ytareh

Idiocy!

sitstill

Them teachers get too many half days Joe.

Peter Flynt

Reminds me of the time (about 10 years ago) that the schools were required to be open fully on 23 December.

Many schools realising the absurdity of this choose to close on 22 December with the intent of making the day up at a more productive time of the year shall we say.

The Department sent out inspectors to schools everywhere. . . One turned up in my school and passed by a load of parked cars and students and proceeded to ask the Principal if the school was open that day.

Absolutely pathetic stuff. . . If only Paddy regulated the banks they way Paddy seems to want to control schools.

RealJohn

So essentially, they want to keep us in the school for absolutely no reason. This is what we get for showing them we have no stomach for a fight. This is a very small thing but that's the issue really. It's petty, small-minded and does nothing but waste tax-payers money on heating and electricity for absolutely no benefit.

TheDriver

even if they put in the realistic times that half days could be taken i.e. holidays. I appreciate some schools may be taking the mick with half days everywhere and anywhere but reality must show also.

RealJohn

TheDriver wrote: »

even if they put in the realistic times that half days could be taken i.e. holidays. I appreciate some schools may be taking the mick with half days everywhere and anywhere but reality must show also.

We never get half days other than on holidays. We had Michael D visit lately and we still had to do a class and a half after lunch before we were allowed to finish up and that was the closest we've had to a half day (other than snow days) during term since I came to the school five and a half years ago.

Bananatop

Oink wrote: »

Man I'm glad I'm not a teacher... I feel for ye. This kinda crap on top of the usual "sure don't they get the holidays" etc., you must feel loved.

Ah most people are aware of the type of work teaching entails, and often say they wouldn't do it for any money! But you always get the whingers who complain and moan about not just teachers, but about anything and everything. I always take a deep breath, never argue back, and just thank god I don't have to live beside them!

Pang

On our school, we have never gotten half days. Even on the last day before Christmas holidays, no teacher is allowed to leave before 2.30.

TheDriver

Pang wrote: »

On our school, we have never gotten half days. Even on the last day before Christmas holidays, no teacher is allowed to leave before 2.30.

that's a strange statement, surely its a case of the timetable runs until 2:30 and any teacher timetabled for those times should be there or alternatively meetings are scheduled at those times?

Peter Flynt

On something related. . . I believe that if a teacher is absent for one period then the DES has instructions for them to be considered absent for the entire day.

TheDriver

Think that came up few years ago but clarification is difficult to get, it would be counter productive to count a class as a day as no teacher will come back from,appt if they,re marked absent anyways

whiteandlight

TheDriver wrote: »

Think that came up few years ago but clarification is difficult to get, it would be counter productive to count a class as a day as no teacher will come back from,appt if they,re marked absent anyways

My school (VEC) does this, it's quite frustrating. Not sure if it's just my school or the VEC it's coming from.

sitstill

TheDriver wrote: »

Think that came up few years ago but clarification is difficult to get, it would be counter productive to count a class as a day as no teacher will come back from,appt if they,re marked absent anyways

The DP in my school mentioned this recently as being correct.




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