Yet another JobBridge question...

lila44

...I know, we're all so interested in this program! :rolleyes:

Basically, I was wondering, if a company advertises a job at a particular wage (non-jobbridge), and then changes the position to a job bridge position, is this allowed?

I'm sure it is, but it just seems a bit shady/unethical really. It's like teasing!

ABajaninCork

Not teasing luv. More like exploitation! :mad:

lila44

Is there any regulations in place for this?

ABajaninCork

Nope! Even if you did complain, nobody would take any notice. All you can hope for is to put the issue on record...

SCOOP 64

Company just woke up and realized we can get people to work for free.

lila44

Makes me so mad! Why even advertise the position as a non JobBridge?!

ABajaninCork

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Company just woke up and realized we can get people to work for free.

lila44 wrote: »

Makes me so mad! Why even advertise the position as a non JobBridge?!

See above...

Birdster

lila44 wrote: »

Is there any regulations in place for this?

No regulation but send what information you have to Scambridge, they compile all the complaints. I wonder do many people know about Scambridge because anytime there is a protest or anything theres' only ever a handful of people out. Where are the rest of the 449k? if we all refuse to take part in this stupid scheme it won't exist aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm so mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: I hate being unemployed but I will not be treated like a slave!!!!!!!!!!!

Martinnr1

If a company advertises a paid job and then changes it to a Jobbridge internship they are breaking the rules of the scheme. AN employer cannot use the scheme to replace a paid position. Even if they have only advertised the job. As long as they have said they will pay a wage its classed as displacement.

Wiger_Toods

If you show the company that you can be an asset to the team by developing your skills within the given time frame you stand a good chance of being hired on a contract.

The majority of company's/employers that can avail of the job bridge scheme are small/medium/start-up enterprises. We have seen recently in the media that SME are the next financial crisis waiting to happen. Its not like major multinational corporations are saving money here , they have much more effective methods of islavery TM. These are good Irish businesses that yes in some cases need savings on payroll when hiring and training of new staff because their CEO can no longer "top up" his wages downstairs.

The opportunity for work is being handed to you with hundreds of good positions available were no experience is needed. If you are actively seeking employment and can categorize your skills/experiences within the 20-25k p/a then I do recommend this scheme. What i strongly do not recommend is applying to any operational roles within a hotel that has one of these schemes available.

If an employer offers you €13,000 per year for the first three months and then €26,000 per year if you complete their 90day trial would you accept the position? I would and I did and can say that I am very grateful for this scheme.

Protest? no thanks . id much rather try and help the economy and gain new skills which puts me in a better position to provide for people who depend on me.

Martinnr1

Wiger_Toods wrote: »

If you show the company that you can be an asset to the team by developing your skills within the given time frame you stand a good chance of being hired on a contract.

The majority of company's/employers that can avail of the job bridge scheme are small/medium/start-up enterprises. We have seen recently in the media that SME are the next financial crisis waiting to happen. Its not like major multinational corporations are saving money here , they have much more effective methods of islavery TM. These are good Irish businesses that yes in some cases need savings on payroll when hiring and training of new staff because their CEO can no longer "top up" his wages downstairs.

The opportunity for work is being handed to you with hundreds of good positions available were no experience is needed. If you are actively seeking employment and can categorize your skills/experiences within the 20-25k p/a then I do recommend this scheme. What i strongly do not recommend is applying to any operational roles within a hotel that has one of these schemes available.

If an employer offers you €13,000 per year for the first three months and then €26,000 per year if you complete their 90day trial would you accept the position? I would and I did and can say that I am very grateful for this scheme.

Protest? no thanks . id much rather try and help the economy and gain new skills which puts me in a better position to provide for people who depend on me.

The problem with the NIS is not the good employers out there who need staff. It is the many employers who see it as a means to hire staff for free. All you have to do is look at the number and type of positions on offer on the Jobbridge or Fás websites. Many of these "internships" are of no benefit to anyone.

Regarding the type of companies using the NIS to source employees, I think you need to check this out. A large number of the vacancies are placed by public sector employers such as the Health and Education sector. Local authorities are also happy to uses the scheme. Some major blue chip companies such as Intel also use the NIS and recently Quickfit advertised "internships" across the country.

I am happy that you have had a good experience of the scheme. However, and the independent report into the scheme bares this out if properly read, many have not.

The majority of "interns" who start the scheme do not finish it. There is also wide spread evidence of the scheme been abused by employers to displace work. Education sector employers for instance use the scheme to fill term time posts by clear manipulation of the scheme rules by advertising "internships" to start at the beginning of the new school/college year and end at the end. All of these internships are for 9 months, the school year.

Under the scheme employers are required to take a three month break before they hire another intern and two months before they advertise again, the summer holidays.
Then, normally in July or August, they advertise again for a new intern.

Vacancies obviously exist for the positions but the employment embargo and funding cutbacks mean that public sector employers only way of filling them is through the NIS.

Surely it would be more cost effective to allow them to hire the necessary staff, rather than having to hire and train new staff each academic new year?


Oh and as a final comment, employers do not make any payment to the intern on the NIS (your 13k) and are not required to make any commitment to hire an "intern" at the end of the scheme.

Wiger_Toods

All valid points and completely agree with you . Every system , scheme program will be taken advantage of but it is up to the employer and employe to use it to their advantage. You mentioned about the public sector jobs, absolute disgrace that its the schools and hospitals abusing and displacing work. Covering over cracks, but said that if I was in the governments position I would probably do the exact same.

The figure of €13,000 is valid . After all the benefits and including the extra 50 per week , people can collect €248 per from the social welfare. €250 * 52 wks of the year = €13,000. Obviously some people are entitled to more or most cases less but you have start looking your odds. People need to realize that a whole generations will be effected from the bailout and that this is just the start.

Also a great help is the new springboard courses available. Most have closed enrollments now but some useful courses will be available in September. Big step forward from the cronies at FAS.