Obtaining correct VRT figure

Leprechaun77

I am trying to obtain an accurate figure for vrt on a car I am looking to buy but it seems the revenue calculator has a few variants which all throw up different figures (for what seems to be the exact same car).

2010 A4 s-line 170. Manual. (134g co2)

I have tried the 170bhp and 168bhp versions but am getting figures ranging from €2700-€4400. The motorcheck facility gives a figure close to the €2700 mark based on inputting the reg but this obviously has no official status with revenue. Is there a way I can supply a reg to revenue or the ncts to get an exact figure?

Thanks

bf

In short no, as it is considered a "premium" car, when you present it for VRT you won't get your amount due for up to a week after as they will send off the car details to the DVLA in the UK to get full details of all extras on the car to catch these under the VRT charge as well.

Do you know if the car you are looking at has many options on it?

Leprechaun77

No extras of note. One was a special edition but this is listed as an option on the vrt calculator anyway. There seems to be nothing over standard factory spec for the model.

bazz26

Revenue do not deal with the General Public around VRT enquiries anymore.

As said you will only get an exact figure when you present the car at the NCT centre for VRT appraisal. If it is not on the NCT's database then they will submit a query with Revenue which normally takes about a week.

My advice is to take the worst case figure you are getting from the VRT calculator and include it in your budget.

Tropheus

It's what is considered an extra on the Irish market that counts, not the UK market. Something standard in the UK can be considered an extra for VRT purposes if not standard in Ireland.

Theanswers

Tropheus wrote: »

It's what is considered an extra on the Irish market that counts, not the UK market. Something standard in the UK can be considered an extra for VRT purposes if not standard in Ireland.

Basically means everything bar the steering wheel is extra in good awl Ireland.
Even in 4x4's the back seats are extras haha

michellie

bf wrote: »

In short no, as it is considered a "premium" car, when you present it for VRT you won't get your amount due for up to a week after as they will send off the car details to the DVLA in the UK to get full details of all extras on the car to catch these under the VRT charge as well.

Do you know if the car you are looking at has many options on it?

No, Audis under 2 years old are only sent for valuations now.

Do you know the co2 of the car OP?

Xpro

It will be around 4750, depending on the mileage.

Taylor365

You can get the exact figure if you input the c02 figure along with the model of your car.

When i brought a Jap Import in, i saved a few hundred euros by tracking down the exact c02 figure (And it ain't easy to find rare Japanese official c02 figures).

The figures they had initially in their database were far higher.

funnyclub

I did a calculation for a 2010 vauxhall insignia sold in january for example and got a figure i then changed the date to december and the quote went down. I was would have thought the quote would be higher for the newer car!

R.O.R

Theanswers wrote: »

Basically means everything bar the steering wheel is extra in good awl Ireland.
Even in 4x4's the back seats are extras haha

Hahhahahhahahah - you're so funny :rolleyes:

2010 Irish A4 product guide attached.

Hopefully you won't get hit for VRT on the extra's. If it's full UK S-Line Spec then the 2 parts of the S-Line pack (WQS & PQD) were €5,975 for a Band B vehicle in 2010.

timmy4u2

The sline 170 is on the calculator
2010 with 50, 000 miles will be €4452.00
It shows it as 140 co2. There is no difference between 134co and 140 for VRT purposes.
You should get sight of the V5 just to clarify and you may be able to work on the statistical code.
BTW there is a dedicated thread on VRT and importing here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=176389
And it might be better and easier for the next guy searching to keep all VRT inquiries on the same thread........and it saves repetition

Leprechaun77

Sorry folks..probably should have kept this in the vrt thread...mods, feel free to move.

I have looked at this again and there appear to be a different depreciation code used for these vehicles which appear similar.

The s-line special edition 168bhp, and a couple of other models, seem to come with two depreciation codes. The E2 code gives depreciation rate of 61% which would seem right to me for a four year old car. This gives vrt in the €3k region.

The second one used is the c1 code which gives a depreciation rate of 45%. This gives a figure around €4k+ region. What sort of depreciation would seem correct for a car registered first in say Feb 2010?

timmy4u2

Leprechaun77 wrote: »

Sorry folks..probably should have kept this in the vrt thread...mods, feel free to move.

I have looked at this again and there appear to be a different depreciation code used for these vehicles which appear similar.

The s-line special edition 168bhp, and a couple of other models, seem to come with two depreciation codes. The E2 code gives depreciation rate of 61% which would seem right to me for a four year old car. This gives vrt in the €3k region.

The second one used is the c1 code which gives a depreciation rate of 45%. This gives a figure around €4k+ region. What sort of depreciation would seem correct for a car registered first in say Feb 2010?

But you are buying a 170 so why look at a 168?
A look at the V5 will tell you a lot as regards co2. In fact it will be clearly stated.

Xpro

timmy4u2 wrote: »

But you are buying a 170 so why look at a 168?
A look at the V5 will tell you a lot as regards co2. In fact it will be clearly stated.

Because thats the way revenue has that particular model on their system.
Co2 is 134g/m btw

timmy4u2

Xpro wrote: »

Because thats the way revenue has that particular model on their system.
Co2 is 134g/m btw

Well I found an sline 170 so I assume that is correct one. It says 140co2. 134 or 140 is the same vrt.
I appreciate that I did not look any further but..

Xpro

timmy4u2 wrote: »

Well I found an sline 170 so I assume that is correct one. It says 140co2. 134 or 140 is the same vrt.
I appreciate that I did not look any further but..

Yes, but even tho 134 and 140 is in the same band, revenue will not adjust it. You have to look for an a4 that has 134g exactly on their system. Hence the one thats coming up as a 168bhp, and thats the one they will go with because of the same co2's as per v5.
Its stupid, but thats the way they work.

timmy4u2

Xpro wrote: »

Yes, but even tho 134 and 140 is in the same band, revenue will not adjust it. You have to look for an a4 that has 134g exactly on their system. Hence the one thats coming up as a 168bhp, and thats the one they will go with because of the same co2's as per v5.
Its stupid, but thats the way they work.

I wont argue on it but the last time I was at a NCTS office clearing a car, a week ago, the girl told me that they are now being exact in how they define a particular car. No more "nearest will do"
A few weeks ago I was assisting a friend clearing an Astra 1.4 life twinport withva co2 of 139..
As they did not have a statistical code for it we had to wait a week for a code to be assigned.

Theanswers

R.O.R wrote: »

Hahhahahhahahah - you're so funny :rolleyes:

2010 Irish A4 product guide attached.

Hopefully you won't get hit for VRT on the extra's. If it's full UK S-Line Spec then the 2 parts of the S-Line pack (WQS & PQD) were €5,975 for a Band B vehicle in 2010.

Why thank you.
I do try.

I can't help but notice I missing the back seats as I have to pay 'extra' for them. Therefore an extra.

R.O.R

Theanswers wrote: »

Why thank you.
I do try.

I can't help but notice I missing the back seats as I have to pay 'extra' for them. Therefore an extra.

You are missing back seats? That's a fairly major omission from any car, unless it's a commercial vehicle, or a 2 seater. I'd be on to whoever sold you that.

If you mean split folding rear seats, they were an extra on the A4 (in Ireland, no idea about other markets) from launch in 2008 until week 43 production in 2009, when they became standard, along with Servotronic steering.

Theanswers

R.O.R wrote: »

You are missing back seats? That's a fairly major omission from any car, unless it's a commercial vehicle, or a 2 seater. I'd be on to whoever sold you that.

If you mean split folding rear seats, they were an extra on the A4 (in Ireland, no idea about other markets) from launch in 2008 until week 43 production in 2009, when they became standard, along with Servotronic steering.

I'm pretty sure they arrived into Ireland in the back, whatever happened between there, the dealer and finally myself I'm unsure. I've checked with Land Rover and the COC for my Land Rover Discovery 3 states it a 7 seater.

However, Last time I checked they weren't in the back. However If I paid extra to the dealer I think he may have included them!

Funny how Land Rover think my car is a 7 seater vs. what I actually have.

Anyway's it's only a joke. You don't have to take it so seriously.