Overpayment

Dartz

I got a job in the last few weeks and went on part-time JSA.

Returned my dockets every week. All was well. A few of them are two-day and a few are three-day. (1, 2,2,2,3, I make it, if I'm doing it right.)

I got the first cheque from the welfare today and it's hideously overpayed.... at the bare minimum it's more than tripled and I was genuinely expecting it to be zero once all means are accounted for.

My base weekly means were something like 50 when I was on straight JSA, leaving 130 , less another 40 means for every day I work, less 20 deduction for every day I work on top of that add's up to nothing, or very little at any rate. (10 euro on a 2-day week, 70 on a 1 day. Negatives on a 3)

Should be at most 100, and probably less.

Instead, they're offering me 370 or more, for 5 weeks.

I think I see what they did wrong. I think they might be assuming I worked one day a week, each week. But even then it doesn't seem to add up right. The first docket was a 1 day week because I started work on a Tuesday.

It's all a bloody mess. And I can't sort it tomorrow because tomorrow's a day I'm expected to work.

The last thing I want to do is cash the cheque and get done for 'fraud' when they're the ones who cocked up. They also forgot to send fresh dockets.

How the hell can I get this mess sorted out?

ROY RACE

ring them

Dartz

My experience on the phone tends to be... unpleasant.

But, I think I see where the figure comes from, however. It took me nearly two hours of dissection and interpretation to figure it out. It's either how they went badly wrong, or how they got it horribly right, but I'd like someone to check my maths and logic for me so I know what I'm talking about on the phone. I don't want to go 'round in circles..

If I've done it right (according to the form), even with 2 days worked per week, I pass the weekly means test. 3 days also comes in under, but just about (2-3 euro in it). That includes the normal 55 off the 188 to make that calculation. So that means I'm assessed under daily means rate, which for me is about 42 euro including my employment means. It doesn't seem to include the original 55 from when I was straight claiming for some reason....

So, for every day I work, I lose 62 euro off of JSA.

For a 3 day week it's 2 Euro, For a 2-day week, I receive 64. For a 1-day, 126

I started work on a Tuesday - that was my first day. Currently, the dockets run from Wednesday, to the next Tuesday, so, since I started work on a Tuesday, my first docket was a 1-week submission, with only one day on it. Because the the dockets run Wednesday - Tuesday, the next three weeks are 2-day weeks, with the final week being a 3-day week.

That's 126 for my first working 'week' (Which was really just one day). Then 64 for the next two day week, 64 for the week after that, then 64 for the week after that, then 2, making about 318 - which is within the ballpark of 330.

My own spreadsheet records run Monday to Friday, so are one 'week' short compared to the Welfare's reckoning. Effectively, they're paying me for the week before I started work, and if I've done the means right - based on the information on the forms they've sent me - then I'm getting close enough for 6 weeks of 2 euro here or there to make up the difference

It might be right, but it's right in a way that'd appall a munchkin. I couldn't have done this on purpose. Being honest is an utter pain in the arse - if I was a scumbag I could've just taken the money and ran with it and not given two ****es. Maybe I'm talking around my own hole to try and find some tenuous excuse to keep the cash - I could sure ****ing use it. But this seems to me to make some form of logical sense at least.

Dartz

I queried this with the office.

Discovered that the payment I just received was correct. My means from living at home don't apply because I'm over 25. (27, actually). So it looked wrong, because 55 euro had been deducted from every dole payment I received - even when I was on jobbridge - and I assumed this was correct.

When in fact, every other payment for the last two years may have been wrong.

**** me.

shockwave

I think you have to work your first week in hand on x&o's and you get this back when you sign off it.