Is this person a tax cheat? And illegal? Can I report him?

Law Abider

My friend's boyfriend is living here in Ireland with multiple passports, all of which have a different date of birth on them, he is also working two jobs and says that he is being paid cash in the hand.

He is currently applying for Irish Citizenship and mentioned on his form that he has never worked in Ireland.

Can I report him for any of the above?

And if so where do I report to?

Normally I would never do something like this to my friend, but I have good reason to do so, also I have nothing against immigrants, as long as they are genuine and paying taxes.

ABajaninCork

How do you know he has different passports/ID's? Reporting this person would achieve what exactly? Why are you thinking about reporting him? And have you prepared for any possible fall-out with your friend after you grass her boyfriend.

I doubt he'll get citizenship anyway. If he hasn't worked in Ireland, then he might very well be claiming. If he is, then bye bye citizenship. He won't be allowed to apply.

CaraMay

Absolutely do report him to the guards and social welfare. Look up the contact details on the citizens advice bureau site.

ABajaninCork

CaraMay wrote: »

Absolutely do report him to the guards and social welfare. Look up the contact details on the citizens advice bureau site.

Great. Report this guy to the Gards. Do you not think they might ask why the OP wishes to report him? If the OP thinks this guy's going to be deported sharpish, she'd best think again. It ain't going to happen.

I'd be looking for more proof first...

CaraMay

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Great. Report this guy to the Gards. Do you not think they might ask why the OP wishes to report him? If the OP thinks this guy's going to be deported sharpish, she'd best think again. It ain't going to happen.

I'd be looking for more proof first...

Fake passports! It will be next to
ImPossible to get that proof but at least his name will be known by the guards.

Law Abider

ABajaninCork wrote: »

How do you know he has different passports/ID's? Reporting this person would achieve what exactly? Why are you thinking about reporting him? And have you prepared for any possible fall-out with your friend after you grass her boyfriend.

I doubt he'll get citizenship anyway. If he hasn't worked in Ireland, then he might very well be claiming. If he is, then bye bye citizenship. He won't be allowed to apply.

He openly tells people about the different passports/IDs. I was told I could report him anonymously. And the reason I am reporting him is because my friend usually has two black eyes and broken ribs as a result of a disagreement with him, yet she is too afraid to leave him.

As I know this information about him, I might as well use it to do some good.

As for my friend, the ends will justify the means

Gatling

Law Abider wrote: »

He openly tells people about the different passports/IDs. I was told I could report him anonymously. And the reason I am reporting him is because my friend usually has two black eyes and broken ribs as a result of a disagreement with him, yet she is too afraid to leave him.

As I know this information about him, I might as well use it to do some good.

As for my friend, the ends will justify the means

Well what are you waiting for then get ringing and sending emails

Law Abider

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Great. Report this guy to the Gards. Do you not think they might ask why the OP wishes to report him? If the OP thinks this guy's going to be deported sharpish, she'd best think again. It ain't going to happen.

I'd be looking for more proof first...

I have taken photos of the fake IDs. Plus he is working without paying tax, I'm sure his lack of tax receipts will really help him out.

Law Abider

Gatling wrote: »

Well what are you waiting for then get ringing and sending emails

I'm on it

CaraMay

https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/secure/ReportFraud.aspx

Report him here and then to the guards as well

ABajaninCork

If the guy's beating up your friend, then I'd get the Gards on to him for that alone. THAT is the most important thing. Leave the other stuff out of it for now. It doesn't matter. And as I say he won't be deported just like that. It'll take months, if not years if he appeals.

Should the Gards lift him, then like I say: Bye Bye citizenship...

Law Abider

ABajaninCork wrote: »

If the guy's beating up your friend, then I'd get the Gards on to him for that alone. THAT is the most important thing. Leave the other stuff out of it for now. It doesn't matter. And as I say he won't be deported just like that. It'll take months, if not years if he appeals.

Should the Gards lift him, then like I say: Bye Bye citizenship...

Thank you, but the main issue is that my friend is too afraid of going to the guards, I went with her a couple of months ago, and she refused to see them, he just has some kind of hold over her.

Law Abider

CaraMay wrote: »

https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/secure/ReportFraud.aspx

Report him here and then to the guards as well

Thank you but I'm not sure he receives social welfare.

CaraMay

Law Abider wrote: »

Thank you but I'm not sure he receives social welfare.

It covers identity fraud, not declaring means etc

Est28

Yes, absolutely report any fraudulent activity and you can do it anonymously.

Our family has had run ins with another family who has been living off ridiculous benefits they are not entitled to for years and they were reported. From what we can see it was dealt with swiftly.

Don't listen to those putting you off, most likely those are the folks doing it themselves and going on the defensive about it. "Sure, everyone does it!"

December2012

Do you think he will suspect your friend reported him?

ABajaninCork

Est28 wrote: »

Yes, absolutely report any fraudulent activity and you can do it anonymously.

Our family has had run ins with another family who has been living off ridiculous benefits they are not entitled to for years and they were reported. From what we can see it was dealt with swiftly.

Don't listen to those putting you off, most likely those are the folks doing it themselves and going on the defensive about it. "Sure, everyone does it!"

I think the OP's focus is in the wrong place. Why can't she report this guy to the Gards anonymously? She's seen the bruises. She's seen the broken ribs. And I sincerely hope that isn't a dig at me...

Maura74

As far as I am aware the guards will not say who tipped them off as opposed to the welfare, report him to the guards.

sopretty

Have a look at this website, it's the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service. They're the body responsible for handling all applications. They are within the Dept. of Justice.

http://www.inis.gov.ie/

Not sure whether they might be able to direct you.

sopretty

From their website:

Our Services

The Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service is structured around a number of key areas – asylum, visa, immigration and citizenship processing, asylum and immigration policy, repatriation, and reception and integration. We also maintain close contact with the Garda National Immigration Bureau in relation to many aspects of work.

The Garda National Immigration Bureau might be the ones to contact.

Est28

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I think the OP's focus is in the wrong place. Why can't she report this guy to the Gards anonymously? She's seen the bruises. She's seen the broken ribs. And I sincerely hope that isn't a dig at me...

I have no idea who you are!?!? A dig!?!? It was advice to the OP!

Whether it's to the guards in relation to the abuse, or to anywhere else in regard to the other stuff... it's all valid and the OP has every right to report it. It's the only way of sorting this stuff out.

And yes, this stuff needs to be sorted out. There's too much "Oh sure everyone else is doing it, so I should too" in Ireland which is half of the problem. Everyone thinks that "1 more" won't make any difference either way when it's quite the opposite. Nobody takes responsibility but complains about the country insessantly. If every one of those "one more" would do their bit to get the country up and running again, instead of adding to the problems and then complaining about bankers, governments, etc... things wouldn't be half bad.

sopretty

As far as I know, without the victim making a complaint against this guy for the abuse, there is little hope of a DPP pursuing the case. The Gardai should be interested in potentially illegal immigration and/or fraudulent passports however.

m'lady

I agree with the above poster, the guards will do very little if it's not the friend reporting the abuse- it's a domestic violence situation, they avoid unless the victim reports it. However the passports and working illegally would be taken very seriously..

Engine No.9

Be careful. He might be a spy! His Id's are part of his "Go Bag"

Seriously tho, this guy needs ro be reported. Multiple Ids just screams criminal activity.

ted1

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I think the OP's focus is in the wrong place. Why can't she report this guy to the Gards anonymously? She's seen the bruises. She's seen the broken ribs. And I sincerely hope that isn't a dig at me...

He'll think its the girl that reported him. at least of he for immigration and working illegally it could be any number of people.

ivytwine

OP, if they uncover his fake passports and his working for cash in hand, he will not get citizenship, especially if he's a non-EU citizen.

A close relation of mine, an EU citizen, decided she wanted to become Irish. €1000, 2 years later and umpteen forms later she got citizenship. The red tape was mammoth. This was for someone from a EU country who had never defrauded the state, had an Irish child, worked, paid taxes etc etc.

It is not easy to become an Irish citizen and he is bound to slip up with those complicated forms. He will not become an Irish citizen. If you report him, he will be deported.

Generally I would be of the none of your business category but if he's abusing your friend, get him gone. It could be anyone who reported him, especially if he's telling lots of people about his fake passports.

asdf1234

You should also check whether your friend has done anything illegal. She may have smoked a joint in the past or not paid import duty on goods bought online. Then you can take her down too and sit back and enjoy the inevitably happy spell that follows.

Andy-Pandy

asdf1234 wrote: »

You should also check whether your friend has done anything illegal. She may have smoked a joint in the past or not paid import duty on goods bought online. Then you can take her down too and sit back and enjoy the inevitably happy spell that follows.

In all fairness you are talking sh1te just for the sake of it. I would normally never be one to report someone to the guards/revenue unless there were extreme circumstances, i think beating up you friend and possible multiple passports is a clear cut reason to report someone.

asdf1234

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

In all fairness you are talking sh1te just for the sake of it. I would normally never be one to report someone to the guards/revenue unless there were extreme circumstances, i think beating up you friend and possible multiple passports is a clear cut reason to report someone.

Agreed, If it were true. In which case the post almost certainly wouldn't have been about potential tax evasion.

Andy-Pandy

asdf1234 wrote: »

Agreed, If it were true. In which case the post almost certainly wouldn't have been about potential tax evasion.

I think the OP is looking for a reason to report someone who is violent towards their friend. They have attempted to go to the guards before with their friend to no avail. If reporting this person for tax evasion/dodgy passports can get this person away from their friend then I say go for it.

CaraMay

As well as getting rid of another tax evader from the country

Tokyo

Andy-Pandy, you have been around these forums long enough to know that commenting on another poster's response like that is not permitted in the Personal Issues forum - to quote the charter:

"Any advice given should be mature, constructive and non-abusive. Opinions are welcome. Ridicule and nastiness are not."

Further comments of that nature will result in infractions or a ban.

Regards,

Mike

Andy-Pandy

mike_ie wrote: »

Andy-Pandy, you have been around these forums long enough to know that commenting on another poster's response like that is not permitted in the Personal Issues forum - to quote the charter:

"Any advice given should be mature, constructive and non-abusive. Opinions are welcome. Ridicule and nastiness are not."

Further comments of that nature will result in infractions or a ban.

Regards,

Mike

I apologise,

It was not my intent.

A

IrishEyes19

Amazed at some of the responses here telling her to keep quiet, it is the same people who constantly moan about our corrupt politics. It's no wonder we are in the mess we are in, people give out hell about our government and then when its very obvious a neighbour, or someone is playing the system, its "grand" "ah sure god love him,"

I would report it, OP, the flaunting the ID's is sickening.

D3PO

report it and do it immediatly.

How people on here can say dont report a tax evading, woman beating thug who has multiple fake passports is beyond me. The guy sounds like scum and needs his comeuppance and that wont happen without his activities being reported on.

homerjay2005

report him, though the immigration board in ireland are completely useless, the most inefficient organisation you could possibly meet.