Question regarding information contained in land registry folio

jr22

Would a land registry folio for farm land provide information regarding water supply from a well on the land?

A valuation has just returned from an auctioneer with detailed information about water supply, just wondering if this info is detailed in the folio?

No-one seeking the valuation has provided this info so I'm wondering how auctioneer could have gained this knowledge. The land in question has never been on the market and no valuation has been done in almost a decade. Thanks!

mickdw

jr22 wrote: »

Would a land registry folio for farm land provide information regarding water supply from a well on the land?

A valuation has just returned from an auctioneer with detailed information about water supply, just wondering if this info is detailed in the folio?

No-one seeking the valuation has provided this info so I'm wondering how auctioneer could have gained this knowledge. The land in question has never been on the market and no valuation has been done in almost a decade. Thanks!

Details of wayleaves etc to Wells can be included on folio as well as well locations on the folio map
You can look up land direct, pay 5 euro and get an electronic copy of the folio.

jr22

mickdw wrote: »

Details of wayleaves etc to Wells can be included on folio as well as well locations on the folio map
You can look up land direct, pay 5 euro and get an electronic copy of the folio.

Cheers Mick, just got myself a copy of the folio there! Didn't stump up for the map though, just the ownership burdens and particulars details. No mention of water supply anywhere there.

I'm just curious though regarding the map. Could an auctioneer tell from a map that the well serves only a portion of the property and not other parts?

Would this be inference on his part based on the well's location as the walk around the land was less than extensive..

mickdw

jr22 wrote: »

Cheers Mick, just got myself a copy of the folio there! Didn't stump up for the map though, just the ownership burdens and particulars details. No mention of water supply anywhere there.

I'm just curious though regarding the map. Could an auctioneer tell from a map that the well serves only a portion of the property and not other parts?

Would this be inference on his part based on the well's location as the walk around the land was less than extensive..

An auctioneer wouldn't get involved in such issues typically.

jr22

mickdw wrote: »

An auctioneer wouldn't get involved in such issues typically.

That was what I thought.

It's highlighted on the valuation as a sort of negative. It feels a bit sus!

Will be talking to him tomorrow, will post back here afterwards!

mickdw

I get the feeling that you believe someone has been having a word in the ear of the auctioneer to sway the valuation in their favour?

jr22

mickdw wrote: »

I get the feeling that you believe someone has been having a word in the ear of the auctioneer to sway the valuation in their favour?

Ha! You're on the right track there alright!

I'll hopefully know a bit more tomorrow :pac:

Hippo

The maps are incredibly basic, you won't find detailed information about anything other than the type of title and the extent of the boundaries (which they don't guarantee anyway)

Peppa Cig

Hippo wrote: »

The maps are incredibly basic, you won't find detailed information about anything other than the type of title and the extent of the boundaries (which they don't guarantee anyway)

So if the boundary details are not guaranteed in the folio/map where are the definitive legal boundaries documented? (Deeds?)

mickdw

Peppa Cig wrote: »

So if the boundary details are not guaranteed in the folio/map where are the definitive legal boundaries documented? (Deeds?)

No. The entire land registry system operated here is a 'non conclusive boundary' system. It Basically means that the land registry are not required to physically point out a boundary.
All mapped boundaries should be based on physical features / boundaries.
In any event, the maps are greatly improved in recent years.

jr22

Hi lads, all seems legit. The information was provided by another family member as part of the earlier valuation nearly a decade ago (.....done by current auctioneer's now retired father). The auctioneer had said he had no file for the earlier valuation but has found it since.

My paranoia may have let me down on this occasion, but that's no reason to start trusting anybody, ever

Hippo

mickdw wrote: »

In any event, the maps are greatly improved in recent years.

I'd have to take issue with this. There's no topographical detail on the digital maps and there are still quite a few errors regarding plan numbers etc. Obviously the old OS maps were in some cases almost unreadable through overuse and poor storage, but they contained more (and better) information.