Will an electric car ever do this? [engine sound porn]

lomb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6_083S-CyA
long may the oil continue pumping:)

Greyfoot

I suggest you look up on some Japanese concept fully electric race cars if you want to see fast and bad ass.

Nice Aston Martin though and the only thing I`d miss from internal combustion engines is the exhaust notes.

dar83

I don't think speed is the point of this topic (or the video).

Electric will never have the same oomph as planting your foot on the loud pedal of a combustion engine. It can't be replaced!

Greyfoot

I think I got the point if you re-read my reply.

Nothing like the sound of an NA str8 six or v8 mate.

dar83

Well the first half of your reply is completely off topic.

But I do agee, although is add in a V12 to that list as well. Eargasmic.

SleeperService

dar83 wrote: »

Electric will never have the same oomph as planting your foot on the loud pedal of a combustion engine. It can't be replaced!

100% torque from 0 rpm. Electric can certainly replace/beat ICE on oomph.
Noise not so much. Character remains to be seen.

dar83

Not again.... We're talking engine noise and exhaust note here, not torque, tree friendliness or price to run.

SleeperService

dar83 wrote: »

Not again.... We're talking engine noise and exhaust note here, not torque, tree friendliness or price to run.

In your original post did oomph refer to noise or engine note? Or oomph as it commonly understood, referring to torque/power/acceleration/liftlaaad?

lomb

My point is an electric car will never be driven by someone who enoys everything driving has to give. Given a very charismatic powerful engine and exhaust combo, classic interior, classic exterior, good grippy handling , preferably a manual for more involvement and noise through the gears, possibly a roadster for another added experience. Add in a nice bit of scenery like the South of France and you have it all:)

Instead people in Ireland and on this forum are more focused on dull boring cars, mpg, co2, electric motors, 141 reg plates ,pcp, depreciation etc. Theres guys on pistonheads who drive 2002 golf tdis for the miles and have Astons for weekend/evening toys. That makes a lot more sense to me than the normal mentality.

Greyfoot

SleeperService wrote: »

100% torque from 0 rpm. Electric can certainly replace/beat ICE on oomph.
Noise not so much. Character remains to be seen.

Not at the wheels though. :cool:

coolbeans

lomb wrote: »

My point is an electric car will never be driven by someone who enoys everything driving has to give

Bollox, Tesla S almost does all of those things apart from the sound. will outrun an Aston Martin Rapide too. In the USA they outsold the 7 Series, the A8 and the S Class in 2013.

dar83

SleeperService wrote: »

In your original post did oomph refer to noise or engine note? Or oomph as it commonly understood, referring to torque/power/acceleration/liftlaaad?

It was clearly in relation to sound, as the topic is...

bladespin

Sound and feel can be easily replicated, a petrol motor wouldn't have anything near the responce speed of a comparable electric unit - as soon as the weight issue with batteries (just around the corner from what I hear) the all the proper 'speed' heads will be shouting for electric.

swarlb

lomb wrote: »

My point is an electric car will never be driven by someone who enoys everything driving has to give. Given a very charismatic powerful engine and exhaust combo, classic interior, classic exterior, good grippy handling , preferably a manual for more involvement and noise through the gears, possibly a roadster for another added experience. Add in a nice bit of scenery like the South of France and you have it all:)

Instead people in Ireland and on this forum are more focused on dull boring cars, mpg, co2, electric motors, 141 reg plates ,pcp, depreciation etc. Theres guys on pistonheads who drive 2002 golf tdis for the miles and have Astons for weekend/evening toys. That makes a lot more sense to me than the normal mentality.

Is Ireland really the only place on the planet where people drive boring cars ????
http://www.formulaeracing.com/

biko

Title amended because I get enough of "omg, look at this" posts on facebook (that doesn't have info and forces you to open a link to understand what it's all about).

dar83

I don't want sound replicated though, that's one of the best things about cars. Hearing something special and knowing it is without even having to see it. A proper engine idling, lovely. A tuned engine revving, beautiful. An engine under load changing gears and dumping fuel into the exhaust manifold, bliss! Just look at the reaction to the Formula 1 changes coming in this year, nearly universal disdain for how they now sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaR674ik-7M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQmgeMoM0A

'Replicating' stuff like that just isn't going to do for a lot of us.

bladespin

dar83 wrote: »

I don't want sound replicated though, that's one of the best things about cars. Hearing something special and knowing it is without even having to see it. A proper engine idling, lovely. A tuned engine revving, beautiful. An engine under load changing gears and dumping fuel into the exhaust manifold, bliss! Just look at the reaction to the Formula 1 changes coming in this year, nearly universal disdain for how they now sound.


'Replicating' stuff like that just isn't going to do for a lot of us.

Most modern aftermarket exhausts are 'tuned' to replicate faster more powerful sounding cars/bikes, replication is nothing new.

On an aside - If you're doing ti right in the first place the intake should be louder than you're exhaust.

dar83

bladespin wrote: »

Most modern aftermarket exhausts are 'tuned' to replicate faster more powerful sounding cars/bikes, replication is nothing new.

On an aside - If you're doing ti right in the first place the intake should be louder than you're exhaust.

There's a bit of a difference between replicating a sound by altering one that is already present and replicationg one by synthetically producing it. I mean having an engine sound created and pumped through the audio system just isn't the same.

bladespin

dar83 wrote: »

There's a bit of a difference between replicating a sound by altering one that is already present and replicationg one by synthetically producing it. I mean having an engine sound created and pumped through the audio system just isn't the same.

Ever actually tried it? Do you honestly think you could tell without knowing?

dar83

bladespin wrote: »

Ever actually tried it? Do you honestly think you could tell without knowing?

I honestly do, yeah. Unless you want to drive around with your windows up forever in your sound cocoon. It's not only the replicationg of the sound that is the down side for me, it's the fact you know it's not there. No matter what they apply or how good it sounds, it's still a false positive.

To form a slightly left field analogy it would be like someone saying they could put the taste of a good steak in your mouth as if it was there but without there actually being a steak. Think of the benefits, lower cholesterol, slimmer waistline, lower blood pressure, cheaper on the pocket, so all the benefits of tasting a steak without requiring a steak. Would that be great? Eh, possibly... but I'd still be hungry.

Sesshoumaru

lomb wrote: »

My point is an electric car will never be driven by someone who enoys everything driving has to give. Given a very charismatic powerful engine and exhaust combo, classic interior, classic exterior, good grippy handling , preferably a manual for more involvement and noise through the gears, possibly a roadster for another added experience. Add in a nice bit of scenery like the South of France and you have it all:)

Instead people in Ireland and on this forum are more focused on dull boring cars, mpg, co2, electric motors, 141 reg plates ,pcp, depreciation etc. Theres guys on pistonheads who drive 2002 golf tdis for the miles and have Astons for weekend/evening toys. That makes a lot more sense to me than the normal mentality.

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dr.fuzzenstein

Not so fast!
In the future you can any engine noise you want. It'll be like the ringtone for your phone, I reckon you could have a V8, electric hum, the Enterprise or whatever else you want. Well, at least I think it's a possibility, I'm sure even if it can't be changed, a good engine tuner can get around that in 5 minutes.
http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/cars/mercedes-benz-electric-cars-get-artificial-engine-noise-for-safety-1.6692802

It;s still not as sad as the M5 pumping fake engine roar through the stereo. Jesus wept.

extremetaz

dar83 wrote: »

Not again.... We're talking engine noise and exhaust note here, not torque, tree friendliness or price to run.

SleeperService wrote: »

Or oomph as it commonly understood, referring to torque/power/acceleration/liftlaaad?

You said "oomh" - EV's have more oomph, simples.

lomb wrote: »

My point is an electric car will never be driven by someone who enoys everything driving has to give. Given a very charismatic powerful engine and exhaust combo, classic interior, classic exterior, good grippy handling , preferably a manual for more involvement and noise through the gears, possibly a roadster for another added experience. Add in a nice bit of scenery like the South of France and you have it all:)

...what a croc of ****e!!

coolbeans wrote: »

Bollox, Tesla S almost does all of those things apart from the sound. will outrun an Aston Martin Rapide too. In the USA they outsold the 7 Series, the A8 and the S Class in 2013.

precisely.


Regardless - you can't imitate the sound of an engine.

More to the point, you shouldn't even try.

IL4, v-twin, v-8, triple, boxer... they all have their own beauty and the same is true of the sound of a powerful motor winding up.

I have, for preservation purposes, both a TL1000s and an NC24 in the garage at home, and at some point I'll add a rover v8 in whatever I fancy to that lineup - I absolutely adore the sound of an engine.

..but I drive a Leaf for the most part - and I love it too.

and I've heard clips of the new Formula-E cars winding up and they sound awesome as well.


So just get over yourselves with your overarching opinions of what sounds "right" or "better" or "proper" - it's all about perception, and in that we all stand alone.

Frankly if you're going to tell somebody that their perception of beauty is wrong then you'd better take a closer look at yourself because you're probably nothing more than a prejudiced bigot.

pippip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Fzb6z6f0cbY#t=154


Not embedded as needs to start at specific time for relevant piece.

all they need to do is add in fake judders for the gear changes and we're laughing......literally.

mloc123

http://www.amazon.com/SoundRacer-Realistic-SuperCar-Engine-Effects/dp/B0030IQK30

Here you go..

BigEejit

Isnt there a hot hatch that allows you to select the engine/exhaust noise (through the stereo)

pippip

BigEejit wrote: »

Isnt there a hot hatch that allows you to select the engine/exhaust noise (through the stereo)

My post, two above. Clio