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Royal Canin Sensitivity Control Dog Food Prices

  • 22-02-2014 1:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭


    Hey


    My puppy is having a few issues at the moment so is being put on this food to rule out any other problems.
    I nearly fell over when I saw the price of it!


    Anybody know where I could get it cheaper than what the vets are charging?


    Thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭phelixoflaherty


    Try http://www.zooplus.co.uk/

    Cheaper than ireland

    The price of the stuff is mad though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    vetuk.co.uk or medicanimal.co.uk would be worth a check too. You could always make up some chicken and potato (instead or rice in case that's whats causing the problem) or try something like puppy NatureDiet which is highly digestible and has better ingredients. Once the pup is back to normal you can decide what to feed but if the pup is having digestive problems you should try and stick to a grain free diet so either a good quality dry or wet food (Rocco is very good on zooplus and usually cheaper on zooplus.de) or go for a home prepared diet of cooked or raw meat and veg. My pup has been on a mix of raw meat and naturediet/rocco since she was 9 weeks and thriving. She's 9 months now and once I finish up this batch of Rocco i'll be going all meat and veg with her.

    Hope your puppy is feeling better soon. BTW another lifesaver for digestive problems is canned pumpkin! Oh and anything like prokolin or other brands of the probiotics the vet prescribes are prescription free and can be picked up cheaper from vetuk etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    tk123 wrote: »
    vetuk.co.uk or medicanimal.co.uk would be worth a check too. You could always make up some chicken and potato (instead or rice in case that's whats causing the problem) or try something like puppy NatureDiet which is highly digestible and has better ingredients. Once the pup is back to normal you can decide what to feed but if the pup is having digestive problems you should try and stick to a grain free diet so either a good quality dry or wet food (Rocco is very good on zooplus and usually cheaper on zooplus.de) or go for a home prepared diet of cooked or raw meat and veg. My pup has been on a mix of raw meat and naturediet/rocco since she was 9 weeks and thriving. She's 9 months now and once I finish up this batch of Rocco i'll be going all meat and veg with her.

    Hope your puppy is feeling better soon. BTW another lifesaver for digestive problems is canned pumpkin! Oh and anything like prokolin or other brands of the probiotics the vet prescribes are prescription free and can be picked up cheaper from vetuk etc



    Thanks so much for your reply. She is having major problems with her anal glands which may be linked to the digestive system. Funny thing is she's in great form, hyper, flying around the house like there's no tomorrow!
    We are going to try her on the royal canin sensitivity control for the 6 weeks, and fingers crossed this will solve her problem. Just was gobsmacked with the price of it so was wondering is there anywhere I could it cheaper than the vets prices.


    Bought 1.5kg for E15.26 which will last 12 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,062 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Thanks so much for your reply. She is having major problems with her anal glands which may be linked to the digestive system. Funny thing is she's in great form, hyper, flying around the house like there's no tomorrow!
    We are going to try her on the royal canin sensitivity control for the 6 weeks, and fingers crossed this will solve her problem. Just was gobsmacked with the price of it so was wondering is there anywhere I could it cheaper than the vets prices.


    Bought 1.5kg for E15.26 which will last 12 days.

    Raw chicken wings are great for AGs ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭denismc


    Not surprised Royal Canin is so expensive, bear baiting is an expensive sport to sponsor,
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/27/pet-food-firm-sponsored-bear-baiting
    Sorry for the hijak.
    Hope your doggy gets better soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    denismc wrote: »
    Not surprised Royal Canin is so expensive, bear baiting is an expensive sport to sponsor,
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/27/pet-food-firm-sponsored-bear-baiting
    Sorry for the hijak.
    Hope your doggy gets better soon.



    That is awful, jeez, it's disgusting.
    I feel sick to the core after reading that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭SingItOut


    My jack Russell has major problems with her anal glands and hot spots so I put her on burns as it had a lot of grain in it and it worked wonders for her glands. I did have her on royal canin but like you I found it way too expensive. All vets will recommend royal canin or science plan as they get commission for selling it, there are similar or much better brands out there for much less than what royal canin charge. Both my dogs are now on clinivet which I mix with sardines, boiled rice & potatoe on different nights and their npboth doing great, no gland problems. What Breed is your dog OP if you don't mind me asking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    when my elderly dog was so ill at Christmas, the vet recommended putting him on Royal Canin Digestive Support - just to give his tummy a break/chance. The price of it was SHOCKING - this was the tinned stuff. I know the vets are getting a commission for selling the stuff, but its very hard to not do what the vet recommends, when he has saved your dogs life :D Anyway, I had to give my dog a chance to recover, so bought the RC, Pepper is fully recovered now, like a puppy again, and back to his home cooked rice/chicken or beef/potatos diet.

    So OP, maybe give your puppy a chance to get sorted if its got digestive problems, by buying the sensitive food, but if its 'only' anal glands (and I mean not ill/sick/life threatening) there are other options that the folks on here can advise on (with your vets agreement etc) to help prevent blocked a.glands... just my 2 cents worth!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    SingItOut wrote: »
    My jack Russell has major problems with her anal glands and hot spots so I put her on burns as it had a lot of grain in it and it worked wonders for her glands. I did have her on royal canin but like you I found it way too expensive. All vets will recommend royal canin or science plan as they get commission for selling it, there are similar or much better brands out there for much less than what royal canin charge. Both my dogs are now on clinivet which I mix with sardines, boiled rice & potatoe on different nights and their npboth doing great, no gland problems. What Breed is your dog OP if you don't mind me asking?



    She was on Burns chicken and rice. So from today is off it and on the Royal Canin.
    In the last 4 weeks she has had to have her glands emptied (sorry to much info!) 3 times, which is why the vet suggested her doing this food trial.
    We're not sure what breed she is, as we got her recently from a sanctuary, she's got a bit of everything in her, but she's a terrier, she's a beauty if I may say so myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    aonb wrote: »
    when my elderly dog was so ill at Christmas, the vet recommended putting him on Royal Canin Digestive Support - just to give his tummy a break/chance. The price of it was SHOCKING - this was the tinned stuff. I know the vets are getting a commission for selling the stuff, but its very hard to not do what the vet recommends, when he has saved your dogs life :D Anyway, I had to give my dog a chance to recover, so bought the RC, Pepper is fully recovered now, like a puppy again, and back to his home cooked rice/chicken or beef/potatos diet.

    So OP, maybe give your puppy a chance to get sorted if its got digestive problems, by buying the sensitive food, but if its 'only' anal glands (and I mean not ill/sick/life threatening) there are other options that the folks on here can advise on (with your vets agreement etc) to help prevent blocked a.glands... just my 2 cents worth!





    Thanks for your response, I so agree with you, we tend to place a lot of trust in the vets, well I do anyways. I do trust our vet but am aware that they are running a business also.
    She's in mighty form, only reason we knew something was going on was because she was scrapping her bum off the ground a lot, her temperament hasn't changed, she appears to be a really happy puppy, loves playing and eating and getting the cuddles!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    wow, if she has had to have her glands emptied 3 times in 4 weeks, thats tough - on her, on you and on your pocket! Could you get the vet to show you how to do it - if you're not too squeemish that is! On here folks have said chicken wings (raw) are good to help anal glands - it seems to be a fibre/roughage issue? Maybe some of the folks with gland problems fixed (their dogs that is!) can give you an insight.

    What breed? How old? Any chance of a pic (of the puppy, not the glands :D) ?!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭SingItOut


    I completely agree irish lady All terriers are beautiful, those who have never owned one beg to differ :D .. When I first took my terrier, moone, to the vets for her gland problem the vet told me that once glands have been expressed once they'll always need to be done but that was three years ago and moone hasn't had a bad problem with them since, she does drag her bum very rarely. I must try the raw chicken wings though, the dogs wouldn't mind an extra treat ;) and +1 on adding a picture :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    aonb wrote: »
    wow, if she has had to have her glands emptied 3 times in 4 weeks, thats tough - on her, on you and on your pocket! Could you get the vet to show you how to do it - if you're not too squeemish that is! On here folks have said chicken wings (raw) are good to help anal glands - it seems to be a fibre/roughage issue? Maybe some of the folks with gland problems fixed (their dogs that is!) can give you an insight.

    What breed? How old? Any chance of a pic (of the puppy, not the glands :D) ?!?



    I think I would rather not get that up close and personal with my puppy!!!!
    Trying to figure out how to put photo up, not great with computers so bear with me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭ferretone


    Anal glands are the natural way for your dog to leave her scent around, so is basically a long-term communication system for her to lay a stake in her territory. When her bowels are functioning normally, they activate and empty, each time she strains to empty the bowels. Usually when they fail to do this, it is because her stools are too loose, and thus her bowels are emptying without the straining which serves to empty the anal glands as well.

    This happens a lot with the modern dry diets that dogs are fed, particularly the ones that contain a high proportion of grains or other starch, which dogs are not good at digesting, and therefore tend to pass through at a high rate, and produce high-volume, loose, sloppy stools. Unfortunately RC Sensitivity Control, while the number one ingredient is tapioca, rather than say, wheat, maize or soya, this means it is still a starch-based food, being fed to a carnivorous animal. Yes, it will be a lot less likely to cause actual gut intolerance, which makes for chronic diarrhoea, or close to it, for a lot of dogs, it is still a bunch of bulk for the dog to eliminate, where it would be far more effective for the dog to have a really biologically appropriate diet, as in primarily meat, rather than any kind of vegetable bulk.

    There are a whole bunch of good brands of dry dog food that provide this, if dry is what you really want to feed. Or you could also feed fresh food, and take full control of what your dog is getting. You could cook her meals, as aonb has suggested, or you could also feed raw food, as many of us on this forum do. Some dogs do better with cooked, and just don't really enjoy their food raw, others, like my girl, absolutely love the raw food, and really thrive on it.

    Whatever you decide to try, a primarily meat diet definitely does lead to much more solid stools, which promote the straining that serves to empty the anal glands. I've expressed many an anal gland in my day, and it isn't much fun for either party. I've also seen lots that got infected, and a few that had to be removed, and felt sorry for both dog and owner in those cases. But I've never had to deal with any problems with this in my own dog, or any dog I felt was on a good diet. And while I can see there are much worse foods out there, I can't really agree that that the RC Sensitivity Control is actually the best one for the job.

    Do bear in mind that while vets are the best port of call for most aspects of our animals' health, their nutrition is not really one of them. The vast bulk of training they receive on this matter is left entirely to the devices of 2 major petfood brands, and as has been already pointed out, they receive commission for selling these foods.

    Edited to add: I'm saying this the case for most vets. There are a few that have put in real effort in studying pet nutrition. But these are specialists, and will advertise the fact. Your run-of-the-mill vet is no more an expert on dog nutrition than, say, a pharmacist is on human nutrition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    ferretone wrote: »
    Anal glands are the natural way for your dog to leave her scent around, so is basically a long-term communication system for her to lay a stake in her territory. When her bowels are functioning normally, they activate and empty, each time she strains to empty the bowels. Usually when they fail to do this, it is because her stools are too loose, and thus her bowels are emptying without the straining which serves to empty the anal glands as well.

    This happens a lot with the modern dry diets that dogs are fed, particularly the ones that contain a high proportion of grains or other starch, which dogs are not good at digesting, and therefore tend to pass through at a high rate, and produce high-volume, loose, sloppy stools. Unfortunately RC Sensitivity Control, while the number one ingredient is tapioca, rather than say, wheat, maize or soya, this means it is still a starch-based food, being fed to a carnivorous animal. Yes, it will be a lot less likely to cause actual gut intolerance, which makes for chronic diarrhoea, or close to it, for a lot of dogs, it is still a bunch of bulk for the dog to eliminate, where it would be far more effective for the dog to have a really biologically appropriate diet, as in primarily meat, rather than any kind of vegetable bulk.

    There are a whole bunch of good brands of dry dog food that provide this, if dry is what you really want to feed. Or you could also feed fresh food, and take full control of what your dog is getting. You could cook her meals, as aonb has suggested, or you could also feed raw food, as many of us on this forum do. Some dogs do better with cooked, and just don't really enjoy their food raw, others, like my girl, absolutely love the raw food, and really thrive on it.

    Whatever you decide to try, a primarily meat diet definitely does lead to much more solid stools, which promote the straining that serves to empty the anal glands. I've expressed many an anal gland in my day, and it isn't much fun for either party. I've also seen lots that got infected, and a few that had to be removed, and felt sorry for both dog and owner in those cases. But I've never had to deal with any problems with this in my own dog, or any dog I felt was on a good diet. And while I can see there are much worse foods out there, I can't really agree that that the RC Sensitivity Control is actually the best one for the job.

    Do bear in mind that while vets are the best port of call for most aspects of our animals' health, their nutrition is not really one of them. The vast bulk of training they receive on this matter is left entirely to the devices of 2 major petfood brands, and as has been already pointed out, they receive commission for selling these foods.

    Edited to add: I'm saying this the case for most vets. There are a few that have put in real effort in studying pet nutrition. But these are specialists, and will advertise the fact. Your run-of-the-mill vet is no more an expert on dog nutrition than, say, a pharmacist is on human nutrition.



    Wow such an interesting read, thank you for taking the time out to respond.
    Doing the raw diet wouldn't suit me with my lifestyle and commitments, I would rather stick to the dry food.
    Could you recommend a dry food that would suit my pup with the problems she has?
    Am I right in saying to keep her off grain as much as possible? At one point I was boiling brown rice and chicken for her, and here I thought I was doing great for her. Poor lil thing.


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