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Funding calls for women only

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  • #2
    cruizer101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    I've seen stuff like this before and have to say it annoys me. Don't get me wrong I am all for encouraging girls into STEM subjects and would be happy for extra funding at primary and secondary school level to encourage this, as at that age peer pressure can have a big effect. But I feel at this level it should be a level playing field and everyone should be judged on their academic ability, this is for people who have been through a degree they at this stage know if they are interested or not and don't need encouragement.


  • #3
    robp
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭robp


    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    See link

    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/item/35843-wit2013

    The call is up on SFIs page too. How is this legal? If they were to announce a call asking only for male applicants there would be absolute up roar.

    Sadly this occurs in a surprising number of countries. What makes it worse is that there are women in STEM at all levels. They may be under-represented but nowhere near the level of under-representation of other groups.


  • #4
    S_Snail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭S_Snail


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    I've seen stuff like this before and have to say it annoys me. Don't get me wrong I am all for encouraging girls into STEM...

    As a female who has been a minority in most of my work positions I am against very direct positive discrimination like this, having programmes to encourage participation by any minority group is good but this kind of separation does nothing to help women (or any other group) as it will always be hanging over you - 'You only got this job because...' and not because of your ability.

    Although I would say since they are looking for postdoctoral researchers I would assume most of them are adults so you could have the decency to call them 'women' and not 'girls' as this doesn't really help your argument.


  • #5
    cruizer101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    S_Snail wrote: »
    As a female who has been a minority in most of my work positions I am against very direct positive discrimination like this, having programmes to encourage participation by any minority group is good but this kind of separation does nothing to help women (or any other group) as it will always be hanging over you - 'You only got this job because...' and not because of your ability.

    Although I would say since they are looking for postdoctoral researchers I would assume most of them are adults so you could have the decency to call them 'women' and not 'girls' as this doesn't really help your argument.

    Did you read the rest of my post, I really think you have gone the wrong end of the stick on what I was saying.

    I din't really say anything about positive discrimination, if anything I thought my first line 'I've seen stuff like this before and have to say it annoys me implied I was against it.

    I also said 'I am all for encouraging girls into STEM subjects and would be happy for extra funding at primary and secondary school level to encourage this'.

    When I said encourage I meant exactly what you said 'programmes to encourage'

    My use of girls was correct as I was referring to children of school going age.


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