urea

valtra2

any out yet

mahoney_j

valtra2 wrote: »

any out yet

Yeadh a bag to the acre out I'd say its well washed in,what do u think!!!!!
Seriously havnt met anyone yet that has as it's been sowet .its in the yard and spreader is good to go ,the weather just ain't yet though

valtra2

thinking of sat, half bag on dry fields, hopefully all going well,

f140

what would it grow after. I think it would be a complete waste at the current soil temps. I would rather put those extra 20 units out in april or may and you would see a lot more benefit.

Greengrass1

valtra2 wrote: »

thinking of sat, half bag on dry fields, hopefully all going well,

Heavy rain supposed to be on the way. I would hold on for another bit

freedominacup

Forecast improving.Not rushing to put on the spinner but soon..........

delaval

freedominacup wrote: »

Forecast improving.Not rushing to put on the spinner but soon..........

Will go with 1 bag everywhere next week hopefully.

Urea getting dear looks to be poor value shortly. 18's looks to be the best value this year?

Greengrass1

Neighbour was out today spreading.
He has serious grass around the place and cows went out yesterday and all they did was lie down for the whole day.
Bit of a waste I think

keep going

We will see feb out with no grass on the ground and no urea out, this spring is going to hurt

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Neighbour was out today spreading.
He has serious grass around the place and cows went out yesterday and all they did was lie down for the whole day.
Bit of a waste I think

Crazy to have cows out trampling grass with bellies full of silage and putting out urea with weather forecast.i could see this as the first february in memory with no urea out and minimal slurry.and most years I'd have both out in jan and be thinking of second application in early march.

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Crazy to have cows out trampling grass with bellies full of silage and putting out urea with weather forecast.i could see this as the first february in memory with no urea out and minimal slurry.and most years I'd have both out in jan and be thinking of second application in early march.

He has a massive pit of silage left and equally as much maize

delaval

Greengrass1 wrote: »

He has a massive pit of silage left and equally as much maize

Must be a good farmer

Greengrass1

delaval wrote: »

Must be a good farmer

Must be he tops grass way into September

sheebadog

delaval wrote: »

Must be a good farmer

Now there's a man ready to expand.

Greengrass1

sheebadog wrote: »

Now there's a man ready to expand.

Ah now to be fair he is a good operator but he spreads too much N and the cows won't eat it then because its so rank and he ends up topping it

mahoney_j

Good farmers do very little topping they make high dmd wraps from surplus ain't that cright greengrass!!!!

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Good farmers do very little topping they make high dmd wraps from surplus ain't that cright greengrass!!!!

I did no topping here last year and only made 50 bales off paddocks.
Not a good farmer yet

frazzledhome

1 bag of urea per ac going out tomorrow, hopefully

sheebadog

frazzledhome wrote: »

1 bag of urea per ac going out tomorrow, hopefully

Is it fair to ask, why urea over ammonia nitrogen?
Price?

frazzledhome

sheebadog wrote: »

Is it fair to ask, why urea over ammonia nitrogen?
Price?

Yea, price per Kg of N

mahoney_j

2 bags of 18 6 12 on all outside block today.cibtractor putting out 2500 gallons to the acre on all grazed ground on milking block with trialling shoe tomorrow.And a bag of urea per acre next week.a bag of urea on remaining area to be grazed tomorrow.spribg is shoving on and need to get grass moving

49801

Hearing talk that urea is hard on soil ph and not great on reseeds either
True?

mahoney_j

49801 wrote: »

Hearing talk that urea is hard on soil ph and not great on reseeds either
True?

Can only give my opinion ,but think that's bull.have friends (beef farmers)that would never use urea cause it won't grow grass,but from seeing their places,no roads,paddocks,stock never out till late march and they think there putting enough p and k by using slurry and dung .i use urea till late may with excellent results and would have no proab using it during sumner if ground was moist enough and temps weren't too high.

sheebadog

Always found it hard to warm to urea. I just don't like the way you get a mad burst of growth and then it falls off fast. CAN on the other hand gives a fairly good response and it lasts longer.

Used a lot of urea on wheat back in the days it was cheap. I gave up on it for wheat but found liquid urea to be of use.

Greengrass1

sheebadog wrote: »

Always found it hard to warm to urea. I just don't like the way you get a mad burst of growth and then it falls off fast. CAN on the other hand gives a fairly good response and it lasts longer.

Used a lot of urea on wheat back in the days it was cheap. I gave up on it for wheat but found liquid urea to be of use.

Can liquid urea be used on grass?

sheebadog

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Can liquid urea be used on grass?

With the proper nozzles and weather it can. Some kick off it for grass then though. Instant green.

Greengrass1

sheebadog wrote: »

With the proper nozzles and weather it can. Some kick off it for grass then though. Instant green.

Any cheaper?

sheebadog

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Any cheaper?

If you buy an artic load it's cheaper than prills. Years ago you could get part load delivered and even make up your own mix of P and K also.
I mixed my own in large vats and the outside of the vats used to freeze over.

Greengrass1

sheebadog wrote: »

If you buy an artic load it's cheaper than prills. Years ago you could get part load delivered and even make up your own mix of P and K also.
I mixed my own in large vats and the outside of the vats used to freeze over.

Want be carfull with all that mixing I'd say.

jt65

sheebadog wrote: »

Always found it hard to warm to urea. I just don't like the way you get a mad burst of growth and then it falls off fast. CAN on the other hand gives a fairly good response and it lasts longer.

Used a lot of urea on wheat back in the days it was cheap. I gave up on it for wheat but found liquid urea to be of use.

same here stopped using urea decades ago

watery slurry, coupled with sweet grass and a couple tight grazings with sheep found to be cost effective

Damo810

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Any cheaper?

Wouldn't think there was anything in it when you consider most lads outside of those in tillage have small enough sprayers, what you'd save in fert you'd spend in diesel..

razor8

Giving a good week so going with urea one of the days. Does frost do any harm to it?