Doom 4

dreamers75

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-19-doom-4-is-alive-pre-order-wolfenstein-the-new-order-to-get-in-the-beta


No idea where this game can go, honestly no clue. FPS? Horror?

Such has changed since 3 indie games are doing horror better than big studios, single player FPS games are rarely played due to being crap.

Gummy Panda

dreamers75 wrote: »

single player FPS games are rarely played due to being crap.

Eh?

gizmo

dreamers75 wrote: »

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-19-doom-4-is-alive-pre-order-wolfenstein-the-new-order-to-get-in-the-beta


No idea where this game can go, honestly no clue. FPS? Horror?

Such has changed since 3 indie games are doing horror better than big studios, single player FPS games are rarely played due to being crap.

dreamers75

Sorry forgot about Far Cry 3 in the last few years and ummm..........?

Professey Chin

dreamers75 wrote: »

Sorry forgot about Far Cry 3 in the last few years and ummm..........?

The Bioshock series?

gizmo

dreamers75 wrote: »

Sorry forgot about Far Cry 3 in the last few years and ummm..........?

Off the top of my head? For straight up classic FPS action?
Hard Reset
Serious Sam 3
Rise of the Triad
Shadow Warrior
Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon
Bulletstorm

Or something meatier?
Bioshock
F.E.A.R
Metro 2033 / Last Light
Singularity
Chronicles of Riddick
Crysis

I'll even be nice and leave out the STALKER series, Deus Ex: HR, Dishonored, and Borderlands due to their RPG and/or sneaking elements.

calex71

On topic, given there has been little or nothing said about the game (DOOM), have there even been any trailers? we could be waiting a fair while on the beta 12 months + I'd wager, likely twice that , seems a stunt to pulled to sell wolfenstein ..... which looks from the trailer I saw earlier to be just alright looking, didn't look bad just nothing special.

dreamers75

gizmo wrote: »

Off the top of my head? For straight up classic FPS action?
Hard Reset
Serious Sam 3
Rise of the Triad
Shadow Warrior
Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon
Bulletstorm

Or something meatier?
Bioshock
F.E.A.R
Metro 2033 / Last Light
Singularity
Chronicles of Riddick
Crysis

I'll even be nice and leave out the STALKER series, Deus Ex: HR, Dishonored, and Borderlands due to their RPG and/or sneaking elements.

Half of those games are older than doom 3 and have been remade.

FPS games have become very stale a few exceptions, Far Cry 3 would be the notable exception in free roaming for me, Metro in the doom sense.

Still dont think single player FPS games are played much these days because they are not very good and just repeating what other games did before. Doom 4 would have to do something different to stand out.

gizmo

dreamers75 wrote: »

Half of those games are older than doom 3 and have been remade.

None of those games are older than Doom 3.

In the case of Rise of the Triad and Shadow Warrior I am referring to their remakes, both of which have been extremely well received by most FPS fans.

calex71 wrote: »

On topic, given there has been little or nothing said about the game (DOOM), have there even been any trailers? we could be waiting a fair while on the beta 12 months + I'd wager, likely twice that , seems a stunt to pulled to sell wolfenstein ..... which looks from the trailer I saw earlier to be just alright looking, didn't look bad just nothing special.

There's been quite a bit written about Doom 4 unfortunately, almost all of it focusing on its horrific development cycle. This piece on Kotaku sums most of it up well.

super_furry

Doom as it stands just isn't relevant today. They're going to have to radically change it up to make it a hit again.

calex71

gizmo wrote: »

None of those games are older than Doom 3.

In the case of Rise of the Triad and Shadow Warrior I am referring to their remakes, both of which have been extremely well received by most FPS fans.


There's been quite a bit written about Doom 4 unfortunately, almost all of it focusing on its horrific development cycle. This piece on Kotaku sums most of it up well.

Wow I remember reading that one now , as you say sums it up well. Just don't recall anything more recent is what I was getting at given the announcment of a beta with wolfenstein, though maybe there was something at the launch of Xbox One last year, kind of dozed off during a lot of that, Ah either way it will either be miles off and just a name on a box to sell another game, or worse yet the mess that was described on kotaku is closer than we think

pixelburp

super_furry wrote: »

Doom as it stands just isn't relevant today. They're going to have to radically change it up to make it a hit again.

Rise of the Triad did demonstrate the appetite for old-school FPS games isn't completely gone... if the game channels its predecessors and the marketing boxes clever, there's no reason a 4th Doom game couldn't do well.

o1s1n

super_furry wrote: »

Doom as it stands just isn't relevant today. They're going to have to radically change it up to make it a hit again.

The original Doom and Doom II still play great and are relevant... more relevant than Doom 3 anyway :pac:

the_syco

o1s1n wrote: »

The original Doom and Doom II still play great and are relevant... more relevant than Doom 3 anyway :pac:

Doom 1 & 2 were awesome. Doom 3 seemed to be; look into corner, no monster, walk past corner, monster appears in the corner, and repeat. Got very bored with it quickly, which is a pity, as I had been looking forward to it.

And thus more looking forward to the Wolfenstein over the new Doom.

mikom

the_syco wrote: »

And thus more looking forward to the Wolfenstein over the new Doom.

Bill Compton alert.

shootermacg

Please ID just make Quake 3 with nicer graphics!

Xenji

Doom beta will only be available on PS4, Xbox One & PC

The public beta for Doom will only be available on PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC, Bethesda has clarified, despite access also being included with the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of Wolfenstein: The New Order.

Instead, those who pre-order the Xbox 360 version of Wolfenstein will be offered access to the Xbox One beta, and PS3 pre-order customers provided access to the PS4 beta.

"DOOM beta access correlates to your pre-ordered Wolfenstein: The New Order platform," Bethesda wrote on the game's official website. "If you purchase an Xbox 360 or Xbox One version of Wolfenstein: The New Order, you will receive an invitation to the Xbox One DOOM beta. PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 4 purchasers will receive an invite to the PS4 DOOM beta. All PC purchases will receive an invite to the PC DOOM beta.

"The DOOM Beta will only be available on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC."

Xenji

Xenji wrote: »

Doom beta will only be available on PS4, Xbox One & PC

Good, no downgrading for past gen.

Can't believe there is not topic for Wolfenstien;

http://www.edge-online.com/features/machinegames-wolfenstein-the-new-order-is-as-surprising-as-it-is-bombastic/

Baked.noodle

Are these the same guys that made Rage? I found that game really disappointing. The driving was awful. I did enjoy Doom 3 though. It could have used a few big closets full of imps instead of just one or two but the atmosphere was great, especially the lighting. It ran like a dream on my old Radeon 9800 pro.

o1s1n

I remember upgrading my PC with a Radeon 9800 pro for Doom 3 and Half Life 2. They both looked gorgeous.

Back when I knew what PC specs actually meant :eek:

Xenji

Baked.noodle wrote: »

Are these the same guys that made Rage? I found that game really disappointing. The driving was awful. I did enjoy Doom 3 though. It could have used a few big closets full of imps instead of just one or two but the atmosphere was great, especially the lighting. It ran like a dream on my old Radeon 9800 pro.

Yeah it is ID Software, but in fairness they have a pretty stellar track record.

BadCharlie

Loved Doom 1 & 2 spent far to much of my youth playing them games.
Still liked Doom 3, talking about it all makes me want to dig out my cd's of it and play it again. Was not as good as Doom 1 & 2 but still gets a tumb up from me.

Crysis i think is the last FPS i played, Maybe Crysis 2 even! & i very much have not played a computer game since.

Reading some lists of games here, it does not look like i missed much in terms of single FPS.

Agricola

o1s1n wrote: »

I remember upgrading my PC with a Radeon 9800 pro for Doom 3 and Half Life 2. They both looked gorgeous.

Back when I knew what PC specs actually meant :eek:

I had that card too! Think it was the first card I bought specifically for gaming. Really punched above its weight.

Mr E

There was a 20 minute behind-closed-doors demo at Quakecon. The following info came out of it.

It's now just Doom (not Doom 4) and it's a reboot. Fast paced, multiple enemies at the same time, the same weapons (carry as many as you want), no cover mechanics, no reloading clips, no regenerating health, gory as hell....

Getting excited now.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/07/18/doom-gameplay-unveiled-at-quakecon-2014

ShadowHearth

Mr E wrote: »

There was a 20 minute behind-closed-doors demo at Quakecon. The following info came out of it.

It's now just Doom (not Doom 4) and it's a reboot. Fast paced, multiple enemies at the same time, the same weapons (carry as many as you want), no cover mechanics, no reloading clips, no regenerating health, gory as hell....

Getting excited now.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/07/18/doom-gameplay-unveiled-at-quakecon-2014

I like everything about whats said, but not the name ffs. I really hate when they do reboots and just call them original name. ( just nitpicking, I know )

humanji

Well at least they didn't call it Do4m

pixelburp

Wow, that shopping list of main points is impressively retro. My interest is definitely on an upward curve, though some footage would be nice; not sure what the thinking behind a closed-door demo is.

All I hope is that if this game is an excuse to show off a new engine, they don't go down the 'realism' route too much and flood the design with grey and browns. Doom was a fairly colourful game, I hope this vibrancy comes back

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I like everything about whats said, but not the name ffs. I really hate when they do reboots and just call them original name. ( just nitpicking, I know )

Especially when ultimately the game will just get '2014/2015' amended to its title to prevent confusion with the original title. Calling it 'Doom' seems a bit redundant.

deathrider

Mr E wrote: »

There was a 20 minute behind-closed-doors demo at Quakecon. The following info came out of it.

It's now just Doom (not Doom 4) and it's a reboot. Fast paced, multiple enemies at the same time, the same weapons (carry as many as you want), no cover mechanics, no reloading clips, no regenerating health, gory as hell....

Getting excited now.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/07/18/doom-gameplay-unveiled-at-quakecon-2014

Throw in a completely overpowered shotgun, and you, sir, are onto a winner!

If it's another reboot, I hope it's doesn't take as long to get moving as DooM 3 did. It felt like forever before I was under attack in that game.

Also, how did this trailer slip under my radar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjR5UzhcZA

Canis Lupus

Mr E wrote: »

There was a 20 minute behind-closed-doors demo at Quakecon. The following info came out of it.

It's now just Doom (not Doom 4) and it's a reboot. Fast paced, multiple enemies at the same time, the same weapons (carry as many as you want), no cover mechanics, no reloading clips, no regenerating health, gory as hell....

Getting excited now.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/07/18/doom-gameplay-unveiled-at-quakecon-2014

So Serious Sam then? :P

Whilst I think waist high walls and regenerating health have been detrimental to the genre in some respects I can't help but feel the days of the retro shooter are gone for a good reason.

Mr E

Mr E wrote: »

There was a 20 minute behind-closed-doors demo at Quakecon. The following info came out of it.

It's now just Doom (not Doom 4) and it's a reboot. Fast paced, multiple enemies at the same time, the same weapons (carry as many as you want), no cover mechanics, no reloading clips, no regenerating health, gory as hell....

Getting excited now.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/07/18/doom-gameplay-unveiled-at-quakecon-2014

ShadowHearth

Still no leaks on that gameplay?

Tipsy McSwagger

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Still no leaks on that gameplay?

Nope

tonyka

________

Tipsy McSwagger

Doom 3 is €2.49 on Steam at the moment

deathrider

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Still no leaks on that gameplay?

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Nope

They must of had the cyberdemon running security at that gig.

Hercule Poirot

Any word on when the beta will be ready? Google isn't being very helpful.

Baked.noodle

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Any word on when the beta will be ready? Google isn't being very helpful.

Speaking to PC Gamer about yesterday’s Doom reveal at QuakeCon, Bethesda Softworks VP of PR and Marketing Pete Hines explained that the livestream cut out because Doom isn’t ready for a “formal announcement." Only QuakeCon attendees in the room were allowed to see the gameplay demonstration, and unless video of it leaks, we probably won’t see anything else about Doom until next year.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/18/doom-was-revealed-to-counter-fears-of-trouble-at-id-software-public-reveal-unlikely-this-year/

Generic Dreadhead

Meanwhile one can pick up RAGE and Doom 3 BFG edition to pass the time

Scavenger XIII

deathrider wrote: »

They must of had the cyberdemon running security at that gig.

No reporters circle-strafing him endlessly?

EoinHef

I got a beta key for this when i bought titanfall off g2play about 4 months ago.

Cant understand how beta keys are knocking around considering how far away the game is!!

Generic Dreadhead

EoinHef wrote: »

Cant understand how beta keys are knocking around considering how far away the game is!!

Tis but a random 16 digit code sitting in an excel spread sheet to them right now. But closer to launch they will just go "email these user and tell the to use their keys"

Xenji

Any word on when the Doom beta may be coming out.

Generic Dreadhead

I wouldn't expect any movement on this for another 12 months, maybe christmas 2015 full release

Dermighty

I look forward to seeing the finished product.

nyarlothothep

I'm encouraged by the proposed gameplay but not so much by the trailer. It looks too...hmmm like Doom the movie. There is too much of a human emphasis, it's too human-centric, ie 'we created the cyber demons' along the lines of a Frankenstein style narrative. I prefer the original's demons who just steal our tech and upgrade themselves, that was more mysterious and badass. Also I hope there isn't too much plot. These games have so much plot and characterisation it feels like sometimes I'm playing an interactive movie. Also invariably the plots, characters and voice acting are cliched and boring because it's design by committee so you end up with the most predictable, lowest common denominator stuff. I would like to see a Doom with a no name marine which is unrelenting, over the top and not ironic/sophisticated, like the original. Basically the videogaming equivalent of The Hound. And it should have a metal soundtrack, but a good one, not a modern one.

shootermacg

Quake 3 arena physics, Serious Sam gameplay with tacked on multiplayer please!