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Fencing

  • 17-02-2014 5:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10


    Taking over an out-farm that was leased out this last number of years.

    Getting hedges faced with a saw and need to fence perimeter to have stock proof in order to get a herd number.

    I intend keeping bullocks weanling or yearlings upwards,got quotes for fencing;
    3 row of barbed with 1 electric 4.50 a metre
    1 row of barbed with 1 electric and sheep wire on bottom 6.00 a metre

    Only intend on doing this once so want to do it right which do you think would be a better job?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭mayota


    patks wrote: »
    Taking over an out-farm that was leased out this last number of years.

    Getting hedges faced with a saw and need to fence perimeter to have stock proof in order to get a herd number.

    I intend keeping bullocks weanling or yearlings upwards,got quotes for fencing;
    3 row of barbed with 1 electric 4.50 a metre
    1 row of barbed with 1 electric and sheep wire on bottom 6.00 a metre

    Only intend on doing this once so want to do it right which do you think would be a better job?

    I think go with the sheep wire then you'll have the option of keeping sheep if needs be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Single strand of electric here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    49801 wrote: »
    Single strand of electric here

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭feartuath


    Single and double electric here but all ditches are sprayed to keep briars at bay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭rushvalley


    single strand of electric is plenty and keep it out from the hedge to make it easier for a hedge cutter to keep the hedges trimmed every couple of years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    I got 2 strands of hotwire with 5 inch stakes, done for 1.10 a metre supply and fit

    1 strand of hotwire with 5 inch stakes, done for 90 cent a metre supply and fit, 5 inch stakes are a great job and six foot six long.

    got 5km of fencing done at that price last year

    my fencing still isn't half done on all the land


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 patks


    Hi Severeoversteer,are the posts creosted,im on meath/cavan border,what part of the country are you IN?
    Maybe you could pm the number of who done yours.Land is about 5 mile from house with no electric on it but looking at getting a supply for fence only,that is why i was thinking of barbed/sheepwire.Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    i row electric is fine, got a lot of paddocks set up and had one row electric supply and fit for €1.50 per m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Being that the land is away from the house id be inclined to say go with barbed. If you only go single electric and the power goes the buggers wont be long finding out and will be testing the ditches behind the wire.... :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭ABlur


    Anyone have a price for 1 strand barbed? Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Solar powered fencers have come on an awful lot! So you don't need electrical connection just for a fence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    ABlur wrote: »
    Anyone have a price for 1 strand barbed? Thanks.

    What will that keep in or out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Blue Holland


    Would depend if there's going to be other stock joining you as to how much i'd spend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭ABlur


    Muckit wrote: »
    What will that keep in or out?

    My neighbours horses. I'll throw on the electric myself hate doing barbed stuff dont have time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    ABlur wrote: »
    My neighbours horses. I'll throw on the electric myself hate doing barbed stuff dont have time.

    I think the electric will be more effective with horses than 1 row of barbed. I can't see the 1 row of barbed being any good.
    Barbed wire isn't too bad to put up once you get a thick pair of gloves. 2 hammers and you can put it up tight enough to play a tune on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭monseiur


    patks wrote: »
    Taking over an out-farm that was leased out this last number of years.

    Getting hedges faced with a saw and need to fence perimeter to have stock proof in order to get a herd number.

    I intend keeping bullocks weanling or yearlings upwards,got quotes for fencing;
    3 row of barbed with 1 electric 4.50 a metre
    1 row of barbed with 1 electric and sheep wire on bottom 6.00 a metre

    Only intend on doing this once so want to do it right which do you think would be a better job?

    Seeing that the land is 5 miles away from you house and that there's no electric supply I'd advise to go for 3 ft. heavy guage sheep wire with a row of barbed wire on top (or 2 rows if your budget allows) around the perimiter. Getting an ESB connection just for electric fence is not a good idea, it will cost anything from €1,500 to €3,00 depending of no. of poles required etc. You will get a lot of fencing done for 3 grand and it will be more reliable and stockproof for sheep, cattle etc. Use grade one treated posts and strainers.
    I understand there's a 60% grant for fencing if you have sheep, worth checking out.
    You could use solar powered electric fence to divide up paddocks etc.

    M.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 patks


    sorry the power supply would be for fence only just a socket at the bottom of a pole,
    there is 4 esb poles running through with one beside yard having a transformer on it think supply is around 8 euro a month,ud spend alot more in batteries and never be finished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    I was in the same boat a few years ago.. so what I did was but up 5ft pdms every 10 yards with electric fence high enough to accommodate a sheep wire fence underneath at a later stage.. I even h framed the strainers. So if I ever decide to get into sheep/calves drive a stake between the existing ones and put up the sheep wire..

    Again I would recommend good stakes and use strainers on all corners with runs longer than 20m.. will save ya in maintenance in the long run!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 tmg52


    Where would I find info on Stock proof fencing, what post lengths, spacing, height of fence, depth in ground etc. Farm next door not bothered to replace old rusting barbed wire and rotting timber post. Farmer has one strand of electric fence. No cattle in at moment. Which is best Timber or concrete, guess down to cost. Any experience hole digging using hired auger think its a 2 person machine job. Also any thoughts on concreting timber post (rot at base issue) or gravel at base and rammed stone filled to allow moisture drain away etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Toplink


    Folks,

    I want to split a 30 acre holding into 3 x 10 acre sections.

    There will be a 30 head of weanlings grazing this ground.

    Whats the best fencing plan as a long term option here. Obviously I can use an electric fence to make sub plots of the 10 acres if needed.

    But I am more interested in getting a durable long term solution to the fencing off the 10 acres sections.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    Toplink wrote: »
    Folks,

    I want to split a 30 acre holding into 3 x 10 acre sections.

    There will be a 30 head of weanlings grazing this ground.

    Whats the best fencing plan as a long term option here. Obviously I can use an electric fence to make sub plots of the 10 acres if needed.

    But I am more interested in getting a durable long term solution to the fencing off the 10 acres sections.

    Wel if the solution isn't cost prohibited, two rows of sheep wire with barbed on top, approx 1m apart. Sow hedging in a zigzag fashion inbetween the two runs of wire and you have a nice hedge that will provide shelter and in time the wire fence can be removed or let the hedge grow out around it..

    that's as long term as you get!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭agriman27


    tmg52 wrote: »
    Where would I find info on Stock proof fencing, what post lengths, spacing, height of fence, depth in ground etc. Farm next door not bothered to replace old rusting barbed wire and rotting timber post. Farmer has one strand of electric fence. No cattle in at moment. Which is best Timber or concrete, guess down to cost. Any experience hole digging using hired auger think its a 2 person machine job. Also any thoughts on concreting timber post (rot at base issue) or gravel at base and rammed stone filled to allow moisture drain away etc.

    You should search (farm fencing) on YouTube there are loads of good videos on different types of fencing, i found it interestin and got some ideas.I like using good quality railway sleepers for strainers and hanging gates they last a long time and you can drill holes and put coach screws in them,I usually dig a hole and throw a few old blocks and stones around them and a bit of concrete on top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    agriman27 wrote: »
    You should search (farm fencing) on YouTube there are loads of good videos on different types of fencing, i found it interestin and got some ideas.I like using good quality railway sleepers for strainers and hanging gates they last a long time and you can drill holes and put coach screws in them,I usually dig a hole and throw a few old blocks and stones around them and a bit of concrete on top.

    Concrete and wood.......... Nooooooooooooooooooooo:(
    Don't do it!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭agriman27


    49801 wrote: »
    Concrete and wood.......... Nooooooooooooooooooooo:(
    Don't do it!:eek:

    I was only talking about a couple of inches of concrete which wouldn't make much difference to a sleeper IMO. What way would you recommend doing it your not using post driver, fill it to the top with gravel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    agriman27 wrote: »
    I was only talking about a couple of inches of concrete which wouldn't make much difference to a sleeper IMO. What way would you recommend doing it your not using post driver, fill it to the top with gravel?

    Was just winding you up.:pac:

    Could you tamp the soil with a sledge as you fill it back in in layers?
    Use rocks to tighten the space between the sleeper and edge of hole.
    Pea gravel is a good job but you you might not have it to hand.

    If you really want to do a top job fix some 2x4 horizontally every so often in the hole as you fill and tamp it with sledge.

    Anything but concrete and wood:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Toplink


    larthehar wrote: »
    Wel if the solution isn't cost prohibited, two rows of sheep wire with barbed on top, approx 1m apart. Sow hedging in a zigzag fashion inbetween the two runs of wire and you have a nice hedge that will provide shelter and in time the wire fence can be removed or let the hedge grow out around it..

    that's as long term as you get!


    Thanks!

    Outside of budget though!

    I am thinking of running concrete posts... 3 strands of wire with one of them electrified using a solar fence.

    150m stretch so not sure of coast?


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