Got paid but not registered

IrishEyes19

Quick question. Currently doing the dip and was being paid a little for subbing, obviously with the new rule that came in at the end of January, won't get paid for subbing until I register when Im qualified in the summer. But I got paid a small amount a week ago after the deadline. Wondering if schools have the option to do this with their own funds, as I dont obviously want an issue where the DES contact me for being paid if they made an error. I've no problem not being paid, its one year, but I dont want conflict either.

mick kk

Hi Irisheyes
Can I just check with you - are you expected to work for free or is it that you do the work and then once you graduate you register with the TC and then get paid...either way, both scenarios are disgraceful....I'm sure the staff in the TC would not put up with potentially having to wait 12 months to get paid. Conflict on this issue is exactly what is required.

IrishEyes19

mick kk wrote: »

Hi Irisheyes
Can I just check with you - are you expected to work for free or is it that you do the work and then once you graduate you register with the TC and then get paid...either way, both scenarios are disgraceful....I'm sure the staff in the TC would not put up with potentially having to wait 12 months to get paid. Conflict on this issue is exactly what is required.

Hi, Mick, basically doing the dip, ya technically we are to work for free since the new rule came in this January, but we also cover classes if the main teachers are out and do lunch time duty. so I do lunch duty twice a week and I cover at least 4 classes a week. Now we did get a bit of pay, 19 or 30 euros here and there maybe once a month, only if the teacher out had a cert, but we dont register until the council visit which will be the weeks after mid term,

but Im worried because I got paid last week, very little but its two weeks past the deadline and Im not registered so Im worried the council made a mistake and I could get penalised for it when I register.

mick kk

I doubt you have much to worry about...keep a record of every minute that you work and ensure you get paid your entitlements. It must be so frustrating to be working and not sure when if you will get paid or even if you will have to pay back what you worked for. Even the secondary school students who work as attendants during the state exams get paid promptly.

The teaching council do 5 things 1. they have a list of names of secondary school teachers [a list that was already available from the payroll section of the dept. 2. they send out pointless newsletters 3. collect money 4. use that money to do surveys and pay wages 5. they give some grants to teachers who want to do masters degrees etc. and you can guess where the money for those grants is coming from.

Welcome to the profession by the way!

IrishEyes19

mick kk wrote: »

I doubt you have much to worry about...keep a record of every minute that you work and ensure you get paid your entitlements. It must be so frustrating to be working and not sure when if you will get paid or even if you will have to pay back what you worked for. Even the secondary school students who work as attendants during the state exams get paid promptly.

The teaching council do 5 things 1. they have a list of names of secondary school teachers [a list that was already available from the payroll section of the dept. 2. they send out pointless newsletters 3. collect money 4. use that money to do surveys and pay wages 5. they give some grants to teachers who want to do masters degrees etc. and you can guess where the money for those grants is coming from.

Welcome to the profession by the way!

Thank's Mick, you cant shed any light on why I got paid though. The council were so adamant about having to be registered. Do schools have their own funds maybe and it came out of that. very confused

Caiseoipe19

Might it be for work done before the deadline? As in, the work you got paid for was a couple of weeks back but that you won't get paid for any work done since, maybe?

IrishEyes19

Caiseoipe19 wrote: »

Might it be for work done before the deadline? As in, the work you got paid for was a couple of weeks back but that you won't get paid for any work done since, maybe?

Thanks Caiseoipe,checked my post, no letter from the department like before stating the pay so I doubt it.

ytareh

Fool me once shame on you , fool me five or six times...?Well...!Come on (fellow) teachers you believed the TC and Ruairi THIS time ?Same shambolic , banana republic nonsense as PRTB (Rental Tenancy Board) registration , NPPR , Household Charge , Property Charge etc etc The 'squeezed middle' pay up while the rest laugh at us for the fools we are .Now doubt some will be along to decry my 'negative attitude' soon . Hey maybe I should feel GRRRrrreat that Ive contributed 500++ euro to the TC under the false pretence I wouldnt be paid . Sure its nuthin compared to what we've paid and will be paying the 'unsecured bondholders' ...But sure we may all roll up our sleeves and get noses to grindstone etc .Maybe theyll throw us a few euro of our tax back in budget while the private sector start hading out payrises ...

Mardy Bum

Pay roll don't have a clue who is registered and who is not from my dealings with them if you are casual part time.

derb12

IrishEyes19 wrote: »

... do lunch time duty. so I do lunch duty twice a week

Perhaps this is it? As far as I know you don't have to be TC registered to do yard duty (in my old school many of the parents came in and did it as not enough teachers were in the S&S scheme) - you just have to be Garda vetted.
But are you saying that the school are now asking you to cover subs for absent teachers even though you can't be paid? That isn't fair.
Also, do you have lectures in the afternoon and can you make it on time if you are doing lunchtime duties twice a week?

I thought I read something on here about provisional registration with the TC for PGDE students?