Saorview & iMac

karlitob

Hi everyone,

Lot of difficulty watching the match today on the RTE Player - lot of people on. Very frustrating. So I wondered about getting Saorview on my iMac. I know there are a few threads on this but I'm still very confused. Just to note that I have no tv nor do I have any subscription to sky or anything like that. Totally TV and aerial free.

Could someone kindly explain what I need to be able to get Saorview through my iMac.

Thanks in advance

watty

Pointless. The iMac is probably 60FPS or more. Saorview is 50 Hz interlaced 25 FPS interlaced. Movement would look terrible. You'd need a USB DTT stick, a Mac OSX application and Mac OSX drivers (many cheap sticks only have PC Drivers)

You need need an aerial no matter what you do.

Better to buy a TV and get an aerial installed. About 20% of locations can use a cheap indoor aerial.
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karlitob

watty wrote: »

Pointless. The iMac is probably 60FPS or more. Saorview is 50 Hz interlaced 25 FPS interlaced. Movement would look terrible. You'd need a USB DTT stick, a Mac OSX application and Mac OSX drivers (many cheap sticks only have PC Drivers)

You need need an aerial no matter what you do.

Better to buy a TV and get an aerial installed. About 20% of locations can use a cheap indoor aerial.
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Hey thanks for all that. Its a little bit confusing to me so apologies for that.

The iMac is 1080i/1080p - I hear what you're saying about the movement considering the 50Hz/25FPS - would that not be the same with a HD TV.

Would the legato suit as the DTT stick?
http://www.elgato.com/uk/eyetv/eyetv-go

Im 6km from a mast. If i got an aerial - indoor where would I stick it (no jokes). If I bought an outdoor and fitted it myself - would you suggest one that I could install. Lastly, would the aerial in the legato suffice?

We really don't wanna buy a tv just wanna see the rugby without it stalling and crashing.

evilivor

karlitob wrote: »

Hey thanks for all that. Its a little bit confusing to me so apologies for that.

The iMac is 1080i/1080p - I hear what you're saying about the movement considering the 50Hz/25FPS - would that not be the same with a HD TV.

Would the legato suit as the DTT stick?
http://www.elgato.com/uk/eyetv/eyetv-go

Im 6km from a mast. If i got an aerial - indoor where would I stick it (no jokes). If I bought an outdoor and fitted it myself - would you suggest one that I could install. Lastly, would the aerial in the legato suffice?

We really don't wanna buy a tv just wanna see the rugby without it stalling and crashing.

I use the Elgato Eyetv Hybrid and it's brilliant - twin tuners, remote control, great picture quality - just using rabbits ears although the supplied aerials are fine. Using the supplied software and app you can watch live tv and recordings remotely.

http://www.elgato.com/uk/eyetv/eyetv-hybrid

watty

evilivor wrote: »

I use the Elgato Eyetv Hybrid and it's brilliant - twin tuners, remote control, great picture quality - just using rabbits ears although the supplied aerials are fine. Using the supplied software and app you can watch live tv and recordings remotely.

http://www.elgato.com/uk/eyetv/eyetv-hybrid

It's rubbish for motion and quality of picture is the SAME for ANY USB stick. Depends purely on your OWN screen and you are obviously in a very good signal area as ALL the supplied aerials with ANY USB stick only good for about 10% of locations.

Elgato is really the only recommended brand for a Mac. It's EUR: 125.10 in Amazon, nearly 10 times a cheap single tuner USB stick (which will give IDENTICAL quality!). An HDTV starts at only 15 Euro more. It's staggering bad value to have a frame rate converted picture.

But ANY USB stick on ANY laptop or PC is poorer for motion than a cheap HDTV. Also quality is degraded unless your screen can display at least 1920 x 1080. Most come with a remote and all can do recordings.
I got a 15 Euro single Tuner USB stick that does everything the Elgato does, (Only Windows and Linux) and works with SDR applications on Windows and Linux.

But a Real TV is better. You are 80% likely to need a proper aerial install.

winston_1

karlitob wrote: »

Hi everyone,

Lot of difficulty watching the match today on the RTE Player - lot of people on. Very frustrating. So I wondered about getting Saorview on my iMac. I know there are a few threads on this but I'm still very confused. Just to note that I have no tv nor do I have any subscription to sky or anything like that. Totally TV and aerial free.

Could someone kindly explain what I need to be able to get Saorview through my iMac.

Thanks in advance

Well for a start you'll need to get a TV licence which I assume you don't have.

karlitob

winston_1 wrote: »

Well for a start you'll need to get a TV licence which I assume you don't have.

Technically, no - I won't need one. The TV licence is for a TV and not a computer. Hence the Broadcasting Charge i.e. Tax on the Internet.

http://www.dcenr.gov.ie/Broadcasting/Frequently+Asked+Questions/Television+Licence+FAQ.htm
Q. What is a Television Licence?
A. A Television Licence is a licence granted by the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources under section 143 of the Broadcasting Act 2009 (No. 18 of 2009) to a person to keep and have possession of a television set (within the meaning of section 140 of the Broadcasting Act 2009) in a premises or specified place in the State.

karlitob

watty wrote: »

It's rubbish for motion and quality of picture is the SAME for ANY USB stick. Depends purely on your OWN screen and you are obviously in a very good signal area as ALL the supplied aerials with ANY USB stick only good for about 10% of locations.

Elgato is really the only recommended brand for a Mac. It's EUR: 125.10 in Amazon, nearly 10 times a cheap single tuner USB stick (which will give IDENTICAL quality!). An HDTV starts at only 15 Euro more. It's staggering bad value to have a frame rate converted picture.

But ANY USB stick on ANY laptop or PC is poorer for motion than a cheap HDTV. Also quality is degraded unless your screen can display at least 1920 x 1080. Most come with a remote and all can do recordings.
I got a 15 Euro single Tuner USB stick that does everything the Elgato does, (Only Windows and Linux) and works with SDR applications on Windows and Linux.

But a Real TV is better. You are 80% likely to need a proper aerial install.

That all makes sense. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.

And thanks for the accuracy - 80% likely to need a proper aerial install - very specific.

karlitob

karlitob wrote: »

Technically, no - I won't need one. The TV licence is for a TV and not a computer. Hence the Broadcasting Charge i.e. Tax on the Internet.

Actually you will. By adding a tuner to your computer, it will now be capable of receiving television signals and will need a licence.

winston_1

Karsini wrote: »

Actually you will. By adding a tuner to your computer, it will now be capable of receiving television signals and will need a licence.

Yes indeed.

Q. Do I require a television licence for a computer which can access television-like services (e.g. the RTÉ Player or streaming services) over the Internet?
A. No. So long as the computer is unable to display television channels distributed by conventional television broadcasting networks (i.e cable, satillite, IPTV, analogue terrestrial, digital terrestrial or MMDS) e.g. using a television tuner card or similar device, then there is no requirement to hold a television licence.

karlitob

Karsini wrote: »

Actually you will. By adding a tuner to your computer, it will now be capable of receiving television signals and will need a licence.

ha - you're right!! I read what i wanted to read!