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Place names as geographic clues (floods)

  • 04-02-2014 9:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17


    With the recent floods place names can often provide a clue to places that might flood here's 2 as an example;
    Cork = Marsh (Corcaigh)
    Marsh meadows in New Ross

    Please add more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Bath Street in Waterford was flooded...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Noahs Park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,914 ✭✭✭✭Eeden


    Flood Street, Galway. Can't get much more obvious than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Blackpool and Riverstown in Cork tend to get the worst affected when there are floods. Self fulfilling prophecy names I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Míshásta


    You really have to go to the Irish language roots of our placenames and you'll find a great many examples.

    Some of the places in the news lately because of flooding.

    Athlone = Áth Luain = Luan's Ford.

    Clonmel = Cluain Meala = Honey meadow ( meadows are often found on low lying land beside rivers.

    Kinsale = Cionn tSáile = Head of the tide (still subject to flooding during very high tides.)

    Bandon = Droichead na Bandan = Bandon Bridge.

    etc. etc.

    So if you're checking out a house in an unfamiliar locality, find out the local placename. Avoid roots meaning bog, marsh, ford etc. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭angelfire9


    Seafield in Quilty... And they were surprised they flooded! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Míshásta wrote: »
    You really have to go to the Irish language roots of our placenames and you'll find a great many examples.

    Some of the places in the news lately because of flooding.

    Athlone = Áth Luain = Luan's Ford.

    Clonmel = Cluain Meala = Honey meadow ( meadows are often found on low lying land beside rivers.

    Kinsale = Cionn tSáile = Head of the tide (still subject to flooding during very high tides.)

    Bandon = Droichead na Bandan = Bandon Bridge.

    etc. etc.

    So if you're checking out a house in an unfamiliar locality, find out the local placename. Avoid roots meaning bog, marsh, ford etc. :)

    Waterford is definitely out of the question then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    What bout WATERFORD?
    Kinda in the name

    Kneemos damn you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Míshásta wrote: »
    You really have to go to the Irish language roots of our placenames and you'll find a great many examples.

    Some of the places in the news lately because of flooding.

    Athlone = Áth Luain = Luan's Ford.

    Clonmel = Cluain Meala = Honey meadow ( meadows are often found on low lying land beside rivers.

    Kinsale = Cionn tSáile = Head of the tide (still subject to flooding during very high tides.)

    Bandon = Droichead na Bandan = Bandon Bridge.

    etc. etc.

    So if you're checking out a house in an unfamiliar locality, find out the local placename. Avoid roots meaning bog, marsh, ford etc. :)

    Be sure to check out the original townland/parish name though - not those randomly-generated names you see carved in old irish script on rocks in corners of new estates - like Árd na Gréine, where the sun never shines, or Radharc na Mara where the sea is visible only from the top frame of the bathroom window in the corner house.

    My favourite meteorological parish name: Tón na Gaoithe, Mayo :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭THall04


    looksee wrote: »
    Bath Street in Waterford was flooded...

    And Bath St is next to Miller's Marsh......which is now built over with several very large buildings and car parks........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭goldenwonder


    Dolphins barn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭olly_mac


    The evidence is definitely there in the old Irish names of areas. One that springs to mind is Tolka. It is derived from an Irish term for 'liable to flood'. A couple of years ago, the new apartments built along the Tolka valley got underground swimming pools by default...

    I was working as an archaeologist just before and during the so-called boom. We were excavating in areas that screamed "flood", and even brought this to developers' attention. Their attitude was usually along the lines of "... sure people will buy anyway!!" Planning sections of local authorities were too lax in this regard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Eeden wrote: »
    Flood Street, Galway. Can't get much more obvious than that.

    Only it is named after a man named Flood and not the fact that it is liable to flooding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    Dublin is derived from the Irish name Dubhlinn, which means "black pool". Baile Atha Cliath means "town of the hurdled ford".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭olly_mac


    Knasher wrote: »
    Dublin is derived from the Irish name Dubhlinn, which means "black pool". Baile Atha Cliath means "town of the hurdled ford".

    And note that the original settlements were built up on the ridge of boulder clay, well above the river :) Them auld Vikings knew a thing or two...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭goldenwonder


    There's river st
    Killinaule


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭notnumber


    BallyLough..town of the lake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The ford bit of waterford is fjiord, which would not suggest too much flooding in spite of the water. The water part has variously been translated from Vardre (and various similar spellings) which mean either 'windy' or 'elbow'(the bend in the river), so apart from the fact that there is a river, not really flood related at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭goldenwonder


    looksee wrote: »
    The ford bit of waterford is fjiord, which would not suggest too much flooding in spite of the water. The water part has variously been translated from Vardre (and various similar spellings) which mean either 'windy' or 'elbow'(the bend in the river), so apart from the fact that there is a river, not really flood related at all.
    Impressive bit of information there
    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Only it is named after a man named Flood and not the fact that it is liable to flooding.

    Yeah, I know that. But wasn't your man Flood called after a flood?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Míshásta


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    Yeah, I know that. But wasn't your man Flood called after a flood?

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Lardy


    How about Mount Misery in Waterford... Just behind the train station that was under water last night! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Take your kids to the water's edge in Dalkey and your wife will rip your Bullochs off.


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