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How does a courier make money on an Amazon free delivery?

  • 03-02-2014 8:53am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭


    Hi.

    How does a courier make money on an Amazon free delivery? For example when in Ireland you buy at least £25.00 worth of stuff.

    Thanks.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Amazon pay the courier.

    Revolutionary concept really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭lau1247


    Worztron wrote: »
    Hi.

    How does a courier make money on an Amazon free delivery? For example when in Ireland you buy at least £25.00 worth of stuff.

    Thanks.

    Not all amazon uk items that includes free delivery are the best price in the site and i guess amazon have pricing deal also due to the size of the operation

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Amazon pay the courier.

    Revolutionary concept really.

    How much do Amazon pay the courier? As a % of the total purchase cost or per weight?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭chris85


    Worztron wrote: »
    How much do Amazon pay the courier? As a % of the total purchase cost or per weight?

    Think about this now. Why would they base it on price? It would be size or weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Worztron wrote: »
    For example when in Ireland you buy at least £25.00 worth of stuff.
    That's the point where they figure they've enough margin to cover the courier. Don't worry, you're still paying for the courier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭Worztron


    No Pants wrote: »
    That's the point where they figure they've enough margin to cover the courier. Don't worry, you're still paying for the courier.

    How can they call it free delivery if you are paying for it? The ultimate in false advertising?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    Worztron wrote: »
    How can they call it free delivery if you are paying for it? The ultimate in false advertising?


    Because you don't specifically pay a courier charge. The item has a higher margin but nobody knows what that is, the courier charge would be worked into it

    It's a false economy when you think you save more, could be cheaper elsewhere. By advertising by letter of the law it's not false or illegal, it's just not true


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Worztron wrote: »
    How can they call it free delivery if you are paying for it? The ultimate in false advertising?

    Because if you buy stuff for less than £25 they add on a delivery charge. But essentially you're paying for delivery twice if you buy less than £25 in a single order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭stanley1


    am i mistaken, has free delivery changed from 25 euro to 25 sterling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    Most likely there's contractual arrangements in place. Amazon guarantees the courier it'll be the only one it uses, courier provides a price per package. Or else they might have an arrangement where they pay so much per year to the courier with annual visits to the contract whereby next yrs price would be determined based on this yrs business and projected growth figures.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    stanley1 wrote: »
    am i mistaken, has free delivery changed from 25 euro to 25 sterling.

    It's always been on orders over £25, not €25


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    Just to add to my earlier point, for arguments sake, Amazon has a deal with ups whereby theythem €1M a year to deliver their stuff. They send out half a million packages a year, so their cost for delivery is €2 per package. They charge you €5 or €10 for delivery. Another revenue stream for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Worztron wrote: »
    How can they call it free delivery if you are paying for it? The ultimate in false advertising?
    It isn't "free" delivery. Then again, nothing is free. Credit card processing isn't free. Hiring an army of staff and managing a massive retail empire isn't free either.

    In case you've only just realised, you never just pay for the product itself. You're pay for the product, the cost of business and pay the business a little extra in the way of profit in exchange for them making things convenient for you (Retail 101).

    The business' costs are factored in to the price of every item you buy. If they've got the margins to cover courier costs once you go past £25, then they'll offer "free delivery". It's not free in absolute terms because you're still paying for it. It's "free" if you compare it to other retailers who don't have the benefit of a massive retail network with low overheads (due to the economies of scale) who pass on their courier costs to their customers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭Worztron


    If someone buys £25+ worth of goods that means Amazon is making a decent enough profit. They should skim some of that profit (along with all the many purchases that are well over £25+) and use it to pay for the deliveries.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,120 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    pajopearl wrote: »
    Amazon guarantees the courier it'll be the only one it uses, courier provides a price per package.

    This definitely isn't a factor - Amazon use An Post for final delivery for most items to Ireland (after shipping to An Post themselves) but also use Royal Mail for full delivery, iParcel or UPS (and others) depending on what it is they're sending and where.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    MYOB wrote: »
    This definitely isn't a factor - Amazon use An Post for final delivery for most items to Ireland (after shipping to An Post themselves) but also use Royal Mail for full delivery, iParcel or UPS (and others) depending on what it is they're sending and where.

    Like I said it's contractual. Anything that comes in to Ireland via a courier will be delivered by that courier or their delivery partner in the destination country. If it comes in by regular mail, an post will deliver it. All depends on the contract at the point of origin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,575 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Don't forget that Amazon has higher profit margins because they major in on tax avoidance schemes


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Don't forget that Amazon has higher profit margins because they major in on tax avoidance schemes

    Don't forget that Amazon's profit margins are actually razor thin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭ei9go


    I am aware that Littlewoods pay Fastway in the region of 1.50 Euro per delivery.

    I would assume that Amazon pay similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    Worztron wrote: »
    How can they call it free delivery if you are paying for it? The ultimate in false advertising?

    This is like pizza where the carryout price is always cheaper than delivery but they call it free delivery.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    This is an incredible thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭Worztron


    This is like pizza where the carryout price is always cheaper than delivery but they call it free delivery.

    This quote comes to mind.

    H. G. Wells: "Advertising is legalized lying."

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    This is like pizza where the carryout price is always cheaper than delivery but they call it free delivery.
    I have seen it called a "walk in discount", i.e. the discount is the delivery charge.
    Don't forget that Amazon has higher profit margins because they major in on tax avoidance schemes
    at least the irish government gets any VAT you do pay.
    Zaph wrote: »
    Because if you buy stuff for less than £25 they add on a delivery charge. But essentially you're paying for delivery twice if you buy less than £25 in a single order.
    And if you spend £50 on 2x£25 items you have paid for 2 delivery charges, as the delivery cost is going to be factored into each £25 item. A £50 item might not have it.

    I prefer upfront delivery costs because of this, I can avail of the discount due to me which should ordinarily be greater with the more I buy.

    There's also a very simple rule, -if you have to hand over money it's not free.


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