Why keep saying "Sorry"??

mountai

It seems to me , that there isn't a week that goes by without another grovelling apology from the HSE. When is Reilly going to grow a pair and take these Arseholes on??

Kylo Ren

Sorry.

Maximus Alexander

Love how "Arseholes" is a proper noun. Like it's their surname or something.

dgt

I'm sorry yo have to go through this.

wazky

Why would he be using his balls to take on an arsehole?. Confused.

biko

Apology is policy.

Frank Black

We are living in the age of apologies.

Most pathetic is when we lobbied the UK PM to apologise for the famine.

What next, an apology from the UN Secretary General to the Neanderthals on behalf of humanitity for probably wiping them out.

Banjo String

Frank Black wrote: »

Most pathetic is when we lobbied the UK PM to apologise for the famine.

Pathetic why?

Gran Hermano

I knew Elton John got it wrong.

Spring Onion

It cant be sorted. In fact they are making the same mistake with Irish Water.

When they amalgamated the health boards, they should have reduced the admin staff via efficiency savings. They planned this but in the end did not do it because politicians feared the public sector and union backlash. It meant a massive bureaucracy which is what the HSE is. The HSE has way way too many non-frontline employees providing little value-add and costing a fortune.
So much money is wasted on admin staff and "managers" that the frontline health system cannot function as there are too few nurses/doctors. It can only get worse because compulsory redundancies will never happen.

With Irish Water, they are taking all the water people from every single local authorities (25+) and bringing them into IW. No efficiency savings, no compulsory redundancies. Clueless. Another bureaucracy.
We will never learn.

LordSutch

Banjo String wrote: »

Pathetic why?

Well now when you think about, Cameron was born in 1966 and the Irish famine ended in 1852, so I guess it does seem somewhat embarrassing that some should feel the need for Cameron to apologise for one of many famines that occured over one hundred and sixty years ago. Cameron couldn't stop the potato blight, neither was he responsible for mass outbrake of cholera & death, nor could he be held responsible for the government (of the time) and their handling/mishandling of that terrible catastrophy, so I can't see why he was made to apologise for past wrongs/mishandlings of those long since dead.

All part of the peace process I guess?

Banjo String

LordSutch wrote: »

Well now when you think about, Cameron was born in 1966 and the Irish famine ended in 1852, so I guess it does seem somewhat embarrassing that some should feel the need for Cameron to apologise for one of many famines that occured over one hundred and sixty years ago. Cameron couldn't stop the potato blight, neither was he responsible for mass outbrake of cholera & death, nor could he be held responsible for the government (of the time) and their handling/mishandling of that terrible catastrophy, so I can't see why he was made to apologise for past wrongs/mishandlings of those long since dead.

All part of the peace process I guess?

If it improved relationships (even as a token gesture) , what's the problem? Cameron wasn't issuing an apology on behalf of himself mind.

Did you equally think it was ludicrous /pathetic when Congress apologised to African Americans for the slavery trade and 'Jim Crow' laws?

LordSutch

Banjo String wrote: »

If it improved relationships (even as a token gesture) , what's the problem? Cameron wasn't issuing an apology on behalf of himself mind.

Fair enough.

Banjo String wrote: »

Did you equally think it was ludicrous /pathetic when Congress apologised to African Americans for the slavery trade and 'Jim Crow' laws?

The slave trade was a very different kettle of fish to a catastpophic potato blight/ cholera/ mismanagement/ 1845-52 Goverment indifference.

Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick.

poisonated

I was upset by last nights episode of Prime time. The cover up regarding the deaths of those babies was sickening. What I'm also annoyed about, however, is that I know some people will take this out on the staff that are employed by the HSE such as Doctors, Nurses etc. I think it is important to remember that it was only certain people within it. The majority of people that I have met who are employed by the HSE are decent, hardworking people.

somuj

What really bugs me is people complaining every week about someone who died and want the HSE to apoligise. Its called natural selection. Week and old people will die. Bloody hospitals keeping inferior humans alive and then spreading their faulty genes throughout the population. In half a dozen generations this planet will be full of nothing only weaklings with disease.

mountai

poisonated wrote: »

I was upset by last nights episode of Prime time. The cover up regarding the deaths of those babies was sickening. What I'm also annoyed about, however, is that I know some people will take this out on the staff that are employed by the HSE such as Doctors, Nurses etc. I think it is important to remember that it was only certain people within it. The majority of people that I have met who are employed by the HSE are decent, hardworking people.

I don't believe for one minute that the majority of workers in the HSE are either decent or hardworking. They are part of a culture of denial and greed. They also close ranks , cover up and hide behind the system. The hardworking , decent ones left years ago and are now part of the private sector.

poisonated

Do you mean the people that wish to be paid more and become more concerned with the size of their next paycheck than actually helping the patients? People who do not want to go the extra mile for their patient and would rather work for giant corporations?

SEPT 23 1989

somuj wrote: »

What really bugs me is people complaining every week about someone who died and want the HSE to apoligise. Its called natural selection. Week and old people will die. Bloody hospitals keeping inferior humans alive and then spreading their faulty genes throughout the population. In half a dozen generations this planet will be full of nothing only weaklings with disease.

Peter Tork

Gran Hermano wrote: »

I knew Elton John got it wrong.

Nah, he was right, madge is always miming.

Cantstandsya

somuj wrote: »

What really bugs me is people complaining every week about someone who died and want the HSE to apoligise. Its called natural selection. Week and old people will die. Bloody hospitals keeping inferior humans alive and then spreading their faulty genes throughout the population. In half a dozen generations this planet will be full of nothing only weaklings with disease.

You are Khan Noonien Singh and I demand my 5 dollaridoos.

Femme_Fatale

People here keep saying RTE never does any investigative journalism which would be an indictment of the state. Or is that just... "the thing to say" about RTE?

MonaPizza

LordSutch wrote: »

Well now when you think about, Cameron was born in 1966 and the Irish famine ended in 1852, so I guess it does seem somewhat embarrassing that some should feel the need for Cameron to apologise for one of many famines that occured over one hundred and sixty years ago. Cameron couldn't stop the potato blight, neither was he responsible for mass outbrake of cholera & death, nor could he be held responsible for the government (of the time) and their handling/mishandling of that terrible catastrophy, so I can't see why he was made to apologise for past wrongs/mishandlings of those long since dead.

All part of the peace process I guess?

That's how it operates. Do something dastardly and then classify the documents and threaten anyone who mouths off with death. In 100....oh, 150 years it comes out in the wash.

In the year 2120 the Brits will have to apologise for the invasion of Iraq. The public apology will be beamed from Mega-City 2. Then they'll all go back to watching "Klegg v Judge Dredd" unless they've paid their air taxes. If not....38 days in the iso-Cube.

Santa Cruz

mountai wrote: »

It seems to me , that there isn't a week that goes by without another grovelling apology from the HSE. When is Reilly going to grow a pair and take these Arseholes on??

Apology brings "closure" usually in the form of a cheque

keith16

LordSutch wrote: »

Well now when you think about, Cameron was born in 1966 and the Irish famine ended in 1852, so I guess it does seem somewhat embarrassing that some should feel the need for Cameron to apologise for one of many famines that occured over one hundred and sixty years ago. Cameron couldn't stop the potato blight, neither was he responsible for mass outbrake of cholera & death, nor could he be held responsible for the government (of the time) and their handling/mishandling of that terrible catastrophy, so I can't see why he was made to apologise for past wrongs/mishandlings of those long since dead.

All part of the peace process I guess?

Bollox. Cameron is an elected representative of the state. He would not be apologising personally, it would be on behalf of his state.

keith16

Spring Onion wrote: »

With Irish Water, they are taking all the water people from every single local authorities (25+) and bringing them into IW. No efficiency savings, no compulsory redundancies. Clueless. Another bureaucracy.
We will never learn.

It's sickening. But we will all be tacitly approving the whole thing when we pay our water bills next year.

Arthur Beesley

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

People here keep saying RTE never does any investigative journalism that would be an indictment of the state. Or is that just... "the thing to say" about RTE?

Not sure but RTE have made a few high profile boo boos themselves in recent years.

Did they ever apologise for the presidential election debate stitch up of Gallagher?